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2) when your hosting company is bought by someone else and they erroneously take down your site and all backups ( actually happened to me) it saves you 3) it’s an important historical record, etc etc. it’s a vital public resource.

I donate monthly ❤️

I want my writing to be everywhere ideas go.

Yes, but damed if they do and damned if they don’t

Don't these AI companies have enough money to pay for a subscription for all these media outlets?

That one’s really problematic - they altered an archived article based on a conflict the owner had. It’s a little bit sus.

I'm old enough to remember going to the library to look up old newspaper articles on microfiche. The Internet Archive is the EXACT same thing in the digital age. There is no excuse for not actively supporting them.

I agree and also there needs to be a bit more thought about a) shared governance (which could lead to better results and product over time) and b) IA not doing cowboy shit that jeopardizes the whole project.

I mean .. what’s wrong with that? These are giant corporations and they’re scraping licensed content.

It's not about that - it's about the Internet Archive itself being scraped. So running a bot blocker on your own site wouldn't prevent that. Newsroom content is flowing from the Archive.

The AI scrapers used to do things that were easily fingerprinted as being an AI tool, but this requires them to be cooperative and good citizens. Unfortunately their customers tend to get pissed when they couldn't just ask it for the news every day or to do something with a web page.

i believe the issue is that AI scrapers are crawling the Internet Archive. The NYT can try to block AI scrapers from their own site, but they can’t force the Archive to block AI scrapers from accessing archived NYT content

Not really a viable solution I’m afraid

There is a lot to it. I don’t disagree, but I stand by what I said to. AI scrapers and those who’d pay for archives are different users/customers. Hard to dig deep on this platform.

I just feel a lot of things about this because I DO NOT want to subscribe to the NYT for a variety of reasons and get sent articles and stuff for inspo all the time and now have no way of reading them outside using a subscriber friend’s login (which I’m sure they’ll crack down on) or a gift link.

a convenient excuse for them but also a real scourge for everyone

sounds like a convenient excuse

i am, i give them money every month

I use IA all the time for research. It’s been insanely helpful.