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I am normally the pragmatic, triangulation guy advising Blueskiers to pick their battles wisely and to think tactically, not emotionally. So let me tell you why I said 'FUCK THIS' out loud when I read this.

Jake Grumbach@jakemgrumbach.bsky.social

A helpfully clear exchange here Hasan: "So your argument is that [Minnesota ICE protesters] should stay at home because immigration is a salient issue for Donald Trump. Opposing ICE is only going to help Trump. Wait until we win the election in 2028." Yglesias: "Yes that is what I would have said"

1) Yes, you should pick your battles before an election. It's risky and hard to change minds 6 months before an election. But the other 18 months is when you change their minds - and the left did, in the wake of Minneapolis!

2) Yes, you should focus as much as possible on winning issues and especially on winning issues that target swing voters but... ICE is one of those issues! If the Dems win the Tex Sen seat, it will largely come due to flipped Latino votes, and guess why they're mad? www.yahoo.com/news/politic...

yahoo.comMany Latinos are done with Trump. The shift is especially striking in TexasLatino voters are souring on the GOP, fueled by frustration over rising costs and the Trump administration's aggressive approach to immigration enforcement.

3) Yes, you should focus on the strongest issues for swing voters but... you don't control the debate. Your opponent is going to try to elevate his side's strongest topic (which is still, polling suggests, immigration!) so you damn well better have a response ready.

4) The part that really rankled me was 'wait until 2028'. Even if you believe we should back off until after the election, it's CRUCIAL to turn up the heat in 2027. If we don't make concentration camps on American Soil toxic, it will be status quo for the GOP candidate in 2028.

Voters change, but they only change if we do the legwork. We need to be spending 2027 making and winning the argument on ICE, trans rights, and UHC, among other things, so that in 2028, we have an electorate better positioned to support these causes.

5) This ignores the moral imperative of 'we're currently locking lawful American citizens in concentration camps and shooting people who protest it'. And we SHOULDN'T ignore it. There's a lot you just have to live with until political winds blow your way. This Nazi shit should not qualify.

But even IGNORING point #5, and looking it solely as a pragmatic, calculating, political math exercise, Matt's point is pretty dumb. ICE is unpopular, and especially unpopular with some swing key voters (latinos, independents, suburban women). Pretending this issue is toxic is Not The Way.

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