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God the Black Rose Duelists arc is so cool

I feel silly because i feel like I just "got" part 5 of JoJo and ive been a pretty big JoJo fan for a while. Its about teamwork and the importance of working together. Every creative decision from the part falls from that central idea.

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I try to keep my expectations for video performance low. I'm a legacy channel and right now long form has such a huge mountain to climb to be seen. I'm just so grateful for all of the love on the latest video. Thank you for watching :)

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

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Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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represents revenge. Survivor is an invisible force that compels people to be angry. Dragon's Dream explores the idea of fate manipulation through feng shui. Even Whitesnake's illusions and memory manipulation fits into it. Which, Pucci's motivations are based around the anxiety of these invisible

I should clarify, Survivor is the untraceable electric signals of the human brain being manipulated, a force that is so subtle and so dangerous the affected wouldnt know its even happening to them.

Got excited and should show my work LOL I need to make it clear that is is 100% confirmed that Araki made Stone Ocean and Jolyne due to SJ editorial pushback, a clear example of institutional sexism, and his response was to write the "Toughgirl beats the shit out of Destiny" Bible

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The same way he taught the children to not think of strength in purely physical means in part 1, he would push back against that women cannot be tough as nails, fight against the odds, do what it takes heros. Jolyne in Part 6 is opposed by patriarchal power structures meant to oppress and contain

Its not perfect, and I dont like how it seems like he regressed after Part 6(even tho I like basically every Post 6 female character, its complicated) but to me its always felt like Stone Ocean was an honest attempt to educate to his editors and more importantly the SJ audience that women are people

Which, I have always wondered how successful he was at that, but given his next work wasnt Shonen Jump, and it doesnt seem like Part 6 started any revolutions, and I fell in love with the part due to people online disrespecting the shit out of it, I suspect it probably did not.

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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have taken is that his audience just grew out of it, and eventually he would just start writing for his adult audience and to my frustration, kinda seems to have gotten stuck with his depictions of women ever since. CSM is to that end far more cynical, exploring ideas like is it even worth being a

shonen protagonist at all, and what lies underneath the hero fantasy. The story opens with the Conceptual Chainsaw Man, the hero narrative that Denji is chasing, inspiring a school shooter. Its not subtle at all with its target I am looking forward to War Devils continuation and exploration as well!

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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two are then narrative pushed to becoming the villain. Yoru in the final fight is depicted as using traditional shonen tropes of combining the wills of the people for big attacks, giving big speeches about the power of friendship, but to horrifying conclusions. The story also ends with a universe

reset, where Asa and Denji are both freed from the narrative as well. I think in conclusion, the main difference between the two stories is that Stone Ocean in 2001 thought it could teach the SJ audience to respect and appreciate women, and I don't think it was able to. The lesson Araki seems to

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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in War Devil's thread. There is a persistent sense of inevitability to the plot, that the world will end no matter what anyone does, and the majority of people understand that but are just trying to not think about it and turning a blind eye. Or they are trying to do something but no matter what it

is ineffectual or contributing to the sense of doom. The biggest difference between Stone Ocean and Part 2, is that Asa has her status as protagonist stolen from her by Denji, wishing to recapture that sense of self he lost by being Chainsaw Man, and then Asa's character is stolen by Yoru as the

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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where a female protagonist is trapped by the narrative and causality into exploring un-Jump-like stories about societal structures, audience bias, and hero worship of traditionally male archetypes, and the anxiety of how to make a better world when everything is just a reaction to what came before?

Chainsaw Man Part 2 featuring Asa Mitaka explores a lot of similar ideas that Stone Ocean laid out back in 2001, where its female protagonist is placed in opposition to the traditional masculine superhero of Chainsaw Man, using it as a critique of the hero narrative of specifically Jump as described

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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Lastly, although Jolyne dies in the fight against Pucci, he is ultimately defeated by the new narrative created by her and her friends, which creates a new universe where Jolyne is now named Irene, which is popularly thought of to show she no longer carries the narrative weight of being a JoJo.

Irene is also interesting because its a callback to the pre-JoJo work Araki did Gorgeous Irene, which is not very good, but was the first time he attempted a female protagonist, Part 6 marks the end of the narrative started at the beginning of Araki's career. So we have this meta-textual story

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

View full thread

these oppressive, patriarchal societial structures, which also include the narrative conventions of their own stories! The stand Bohemian Rhapsody is a meta commentary because as people are pulled into these narratives, they are doomed to repeat and live them out, until a new narrative is written

that destroys all others. Sky High asks if Jolyne's badass protagonist shit is all just the story pushing Pucci to his victory, was it fate or coincidence she won? Underworld traps Jolyne in an unavoidable disaster of a plane crash and then she somehow finds a way to survive.

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

View full thread

shape and influence the present in unseen and uncontrollable ways that feels impossible to escape. This is compelling as JoJo IS a long running narrative who is influenced still to the decisions made back in the 80s about two buff dudes punching each other. Dio haunts the narrative of Part 6,

he is a curse who represents the evil that all the Joestars have had to defeat. His and Pucci's heaven plan end up representing that fundamentally the idea that fate cannot be changed, and all you can do is accept what will happen to you. This is in opposition to Jolyne and Co's struggles against

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

View full thread

represents revenge. Survivor is an invisible force that compels people to be angry. Dragon's Dream explores the idea of fate manipulation through feng shui. Even Whitesnake's illusions and memory manipulation fits into it. Which, Pucci's motivations are based around the anxiety of these invisible

forces, called Gravity. You could think of it as fate but I think it makes more sense to call it causality. His backstory calls into question why anything happens at all, as its all meant as logical conclusions to things that previously happened. Events that people had no knowledge of continue to

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

View full thread

As the part goes on, as it goes into its bigger ideas on Gravity, one of the main themes of the part takes shape: "Invisible Power Structures that control and define peoples lives". Gravity as a representation of fate is a main one, Gravity is a force that binds the universe but we still are able to

jump off the ground. Manhattan Transfer sees and predicts movement through Air Currents, Highway to Hell represents a toxic person dragging people down with him, Marylin Manson is a debt collector, Jumping Jack Flash literally manipulates Gravity, Limp Bizkit controls invisible zombies and

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

View full thread

made him a shitty, distant father and the story wants us to think of that relationship from her perspective. Its notable that her main antagonist Father Enrico Pucci is also a "father" and as a priest represents a sense of Morality that Jolyne as a criminal doesn't traditionally have.

This is then subverted with the premise of Jotaro having his memories and stand taken from him, putting him into a similar setup to his goal to save his mother in Part 3. What was previously a pretty sexist idea that Holly is just "too pure" to have a stand and therefor its killing her, is flipped.

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

View full thread

The same way he taught the children to not think of strength in purely physical means in part 1, he would push back against that women cannot be tough as nails, fight against the odds, do what it takes heros. Jolyne in Part 6 is opposed by patriarchal power structures meant to oppress and contain

her. The prison is stated early on to represent the "ideals of (america)" and there is even a panel showing Jolyne nearly crushed by a Florida Law book. She is also opposed by her father, Jotaro, the iconic protagonist of the iconic Part 3. The things that make Jotaro a fanfavorite protagonist have

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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a bit of a catchphrase for him. Jotaro is also the idealized hero archetype as well, the stoic, strong, determined type, whos is also meant to closer relate to his target audience, being the first Japanese JoJo of the story. Jotaro becomes the real mascot of JoJos, showing up in ever subsequent part

after part 3 up to Part 6, even when he really doesn't need to like Part 5. This is where Stone Ocean comes in, which fulfills the promise of a female protagonist, against the advice of his editors. Araki when told that the SJ audience would not accept her would claim "this is why I have to"

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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each other. So like, JoJo did not set out to try and empower female characters historically, a lot of the time Araki was just including characters from movies and stories he just likes, but there seems to be some kind of growing resentment to depictions of female characters in Shonen Jump works.

Which to go back a bit, Part 3 has a lot of misogyny in it. The most popular part and the one that defines JoJo as a sensation, is also the one where the main character is depicted calling his mom a bitch in his introduction. Him calling women bitches would then be brought back for Part 4, making it

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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to be one of the most popular ones in Japan. However, it has come out that for the entire part Araki wanted Giorno to be a woman, and kept facing pushback against this by his editors. Despite that he kept bothering them to say things like "well what if we just revealed he was a girl the whole time!"

The plot also features the one female character having a battle against an impossible to defeat monster that only she is able to stop, and also the climax includes a "freaky friday"-esq bodyswap which sees a lot of humor in genderswapping Trish and Mista, however ending that they better understand

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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to advocate to his readers and editors for why she is both scary and important I think is telling for how things would later develop. Same with Yukako in part 4 she is deliberately a pushback on the depictions of female characters in his contemporaries, who were all usually super cute and nothing gf

characters, so he took something from media he knew was successful, specifically from Stephen King's Misery. Part 5 is where this gets really interesting, because its the most male centric part of the entire story. There is really only 1.5 named female characters in the entire part, and it happens

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

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women as depicted in JoJo. Araki would later make comments about how Lisa Lisa and Enya are proto examples of subversion of expectations at the time. That traditionally you did need a series of larger, buffer men because that is what was expected when depicting strength, but when there is a

magical component, looks and strength become decoupled. However at the time I don't think Araki was thinking of these women as that subversive, because I think he was just pulling from movies and other stories he likes. Enya is a classic scary witch archetype afterall, but to hear that he was having

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

View full thread

all forms of stories and recognized just because its not what their peers are doing, doesn't mean it cant be done an in fact sometimes means it should. Killing Jonathan turns him into a martyr and symbol for the series which each protagonist will be compared back to. It digs into the thesis for the

part "who is the strongest man in the world" between the immortal and powerful body of Dio, vs the enduring legacy and story of Jonathan. As we go through the parts and Araki finds his audience, yeah he continues to be really weird, but also there is kinda a quiet debate going on in relation to

This is an amazing thread, but I find myself compelled to write my own since for the last decade I spent an enormous amount of time and effort analyzing JoJo and specifically Part 6: Stone Ocean as one of the strangest outliers within SJ I have ever seen. Part 6 and Part 2 of CSM go well as sisters.

War Devil @wardevil.bsky.social

Works with similarly graphic content to Chainsaw Man are not without precedent in Shonen Jump history. Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure is the canonical example of a Jump story full of random fucked up shit. However, Chainsaw Man departs even from this tradition.

So one of the most notable aspects of the "spirit" of JoJo is its first ever subversion of expectations; killing Jonathan at the end of Part 1. At the time of its publications, your main character WAS your manga, so to kill them off was essentially unthinkable. Araki is however a lover of art and of