This is what makes this NOT an example of "liberal media painting leftists in a bad light" because it shows how his ego and internalized bigotry makes him a liability to marginalized people at best and a threat to them at worst, without his methods ever really impacting the lives of the rich at all.
For some of them, the cognitive dissonance might also be too much, since they actively participate in the slandering and encouraging of harassment against her
It’s funny to see people here talk about how terribly queer indie creators are treated but absolutely refuse to use Vivziepop as an example because they believe it was different that time and she deserves it
People who claim the shows are villainizing characters who loudly preach about change and injustice are outing themselves as falling for Vox's propaganda. Maybe the shows are making a point about characters who can say the right words but don't have the people's best interest in mind.
U guys have to realize Striker is like Vox but poor.
"You have a powerful message about overthrowing your oppressers. But also your real desire is to lead a revolution specifically so that you can have the glory of being it's figure head and not actually because you care about ppl."
It’s funny to see people here talk about how terribly queer indie creators are treated but absolutely refuse to use Vivziepop as an example because they believe it was different that time and she deserves it
The Hellaverse is really good at showing that bigotry doesn’t work in simplistic binaries or with any kind of coherent logic, and a whole lot of people aren’t ready for that conversation
I think Vassago's love for Stolas runs very deep, deeper than we know, so far he's wanted nothing more than to bring Stolas happiness, and with that I believe he will be willing to give Stolas up to give him that happiness, even if it hurts him, he's a good man
They did say he's a good boy so right now I'm in the department of he's like Moxxie where he's got a genuinely kind heart but a fuzzy head and being raised in a pretentious upper class society does not help with the latter
#HelluvaBossS3#HBSpoilers anyway the real villains of hb will always be cash fucking buckzo and motherfucking paimon, some of the worst dads to ever do it
STRIKER IS NOT A REVOLUTIONARY
HE’S A IMP SUPREMACIST
DONT GET IT TWISTED
THE SAME RACISM HE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE GOETIA HE HIMSELF PARTAKES AGAINST FAUSILS.
AND HES HALF FAUSIL HIMSELF
To avoid that, you have to respect the creators as artists, regardless of whether you trust the story to satisfy you in the end or not. If you haven’t gone that far yet, you can pace yourself, and discuss that characters’ diegetic screw-ups fairly, not hold it personally against the writers.
Negative opinions can get unfairly harassed, but from what I’ve seen haters can also be downright predatory and try to amplify negative feelings towards the story for their own vindication. They want to pull in as many people as possible into their toxic parasocial circles.
I always thought that the over-the-top hate and parasocial behavior thrown out way made discussions about the morally ambiguous behavior of the characters more difficult, because we should be able to express those emotions without looking over our shoulder.
U guys have to realize Striker is like Vox but poor.
"You have a powerful message about overthrowing your oppressers. But also your real desire is to lead a revolution specifically so that you can have the glory of being it's figure head and not actually because you care about ppl."
And people act like the show can’t write that because some of the rich characters are sympathetic? Loona went from having to wait years for a rabies shot to needing a whole King Sin to bring in urgent care to treat a fatal injury.
#HBspoilers Reflecting on Stolas’s actions for a bit, and I remembered a recent comment positing that the relentless punishment he endured wasn’t really improving things. It wasn’t making him *more* self-aware or less naive. That’s why he doesn’t need “comeuppance,” he needs to grow.
#helluvabossspoilers I did boards and revisions on 7 as well! Sadly, I got missed in the credits, but I did the end bit of Barbie saving Blitz and running off with Striker. Their meet cute during a brawl was fun 💘
#helluvabossspoilers#helluvaboss
Had a ton of fun with episode 6!! I did some revisions toward the end along with the cold open and Fizz's social media shenanigans 🤡💖 I'm glad the sight gags I did made it, particularly the dirty joke on the Bee ad and the sexy smoke rubber chicken 💨🐓
It’s like a vicious cycle. Acting selfishly against someone they care about, then overcorrect and make some huge sacrifice for their sake, but then go back to acting selfish because they’re reeling from the consequences of said sacrifice. Not many shows tackle this non-lineart development.
#HBspoilers When you think about it, it kind of deconstructs the idea of using misery as substitute for character development. This seems to be a trend across both shows. Suffering isn’t redemption.
#HBspoilers Reflecting on Stolas’s actions for a bit, and I remembered a recent comment positing that the relentless punishment he endured wasn’t really improving things. It wasn’t making him *more* self-aware or less naive. That’s why he doesn’t need “comeuppance,” he needs to grow.
Happy Birthday to the incredible Vivienne Medrano @vivziepop.bsky.social! From all of us at SpindleHorse and your fans around the world, thank you for everything you do. Join us in wishing Viv a happy birthday in the comments! 🎂🥳🎈🎁
Some of the merch I’ve had the chance to draw for the first part of Helluva Boss S3 ✨
I really enjoyed drawing all of this; but probably what I enjoyed most was drawing the Stolas and Via pin 🥰
#helluvaboss
‘Is Striker straight?’
For getting involved with a woman who’s incredibly similar to the guy he was coming on to hard in Harvest Moon?
Hm, I don’t know just yet
I really like how HB illustrates that class privilege isn’t just about money, it’s about connections. It’s about knowing people with rescources, who are willing to help you when you’re out on your ass
This is what actually lies behind the success of many ’self-made’ rich people
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The fact that all Fizz, Blitz and Barbie learned the act of "Weaponize your looks to get what you want" is interesting but the implications are Fucking Bleak dude, what the fuck was Cash doing to them,