Ole Peters

Ole Peters

@opeters.bsky.social

Physicist, Ergodicity Economics http://ergodicityeconomics.com

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Ole Peters reposted

Just finished reading the 20th anniversary edition of Fortune’s Formula by William Poundstone. It is such a good book. The new edition has an extra part, titled Ergodicity, which covers the work of Ole Peters and others.

If you’re interested in — I was going to say ergodicity, then I thought ‘decisions theory’, and now I’m settling on — life?, have a look at the 20th anniversary edition of William Poundstone’s classic Fortune’s Formula. It has a brand new part about the rise of ergodicity economics.

Interesting exercise: use ergodicity economics to determine the conditions under which the answers are rational.

YouGov@yougov.co.uk

If you had a choice between instantly receiving £50,000 or a 50% chance to win £1m, which would you pick? £50,000: 73% 50/50 chance of winning £1m: 21% yougov.com/en-gb/daily-...

If ergodicity had been part of our cultural vocabulary, we wouldn’t have got into the communication mess over Covid vaccines. Another 100 years and we’ll all be on the same page…

Daniel P. Moriarity@dpmoriarity.bsky.social

This is some part copium, but imo calling small btw-person differences not clinically meaningful is making assumptions about how things play out within-person (tickles ergodicity sensors) Wouldn't say large btw-associations are clinically relevant, but that goes the same for irrelevance

1/ Very curious about this, @cfcamerer.bsky.social. Long-term growth optimization, studied in ergodicity economics, provides an interesting baseline for the "cold calculation" part of loss aversion. It makes predictions that may already be testable using data you've collected.

Santa Fe Institute @sfiscience.bsky.social

Reserve free tickets for SFI's Community Lecture with Colin Camerer, July 21, 7:30 pm at the Lensic. Why does losing $10 hurt roughly twice as much as gaining $10 feels good? This talk explores loss aversion, and how emotion, not just cold calculation, creates our aversion to loss. Tickets:

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4. It also predicts that apparent loss aversion depends on the wealth dynamic, for example diminishing (λ → 1) under additive dynamics. Those qualitative predictions seem well suited to behavioral and neuroscience experiments.

1/ Very curious about this, @cfcamerer.bsky.social. Long-term growth optimization, studied in ergodicity economics, provides an interesting baseline for the "cold calculation" part of loss aversion. It makes predictions that may already be testable using data you've collected.

Santa Fe Institute @sfiscience.bsky.social

Reserve free tickets for SFI's Community Lecture with Colin Camerer, July 21, 7:30 pm at the Lensic. Why does losing $10 hurt roughly twice as much as gaining $10 feels good? This talk explores loss aversion, and how emotion, not just cold calculation, creates our aversion to loss. Tickets:

2/ For example, in the null model of multiplicative dynamics, optimizing long-term wealth growth implies an apparent loss-aversion coefficient λ(x) = −ln(1−x)/ln(1+x), with x the stake as a fraction of current wealth. Curiously λ = 2 exactly when x = (√5−1)/2, the reciprocal of the golden ratio.

If I post a link on here, will my post be suppressed, like on twitter and linkedIn, or is BlueSky the last refuge for people who actually want to communicate content?

Not entirely surprising in a tutorial session about ‘An introduction to ergodicity economics.’ Having said that — it is the only book on the subject, and there really is a feeling of witnessing science in the making here.

heartpunk (sophie!!)@heartpunk.com

very weird to be at a conference for a field so young where ppl in every talk say "the book" and everyone knows w/o any possible ambiguity exactly which they mean cool but very weird too like, what, i'm in history or something????? I'M IN HISTORY WHAT IS THIS THIS IS WEIRD AGGHHHHHHHH

Ole Peters reposted

New book: An Introduction to Ergodicity Economics A new textbook by SFI External Professor Ole Peters and Alexander Adamou re-examines core assumptions in economic theory. It presents a formal challenge to expected-value thinking and shows how non-ergodicity can arise naturally in economic models.

santafe.eduNew book: Introduction to Ergodicity EconomicsAn Introduction to Ergodicity Economics is a new textbook that draws on physics to re-examine traditional economic theory. It begins with flipping a coin. And a hypothetical gambit. Imagine you were o...

This book has been such a delight! By my friend and mentor Reuben Hersh, about his friend and mentor Peter Lax. Reading it feels like listening to Reuben speak about his love of mathematics and his respect, friendship, and admiration for Peter.

It makes me exceedingly happy that there are people all around the world who enjoy this kind of gentle slow meditation. Social-media scatter brain be damned. And if one of them is Dave Bacon, you know it's good stuff!

Dave Bacon@dabacon.tachyon.institute

Look what showed up today @opeters.bsky.social non-trivial thoughts beside the non-trivial trefoil knot

1/6 How can I put this? "Expected-utility maximizers don't maximize utility." Why? Because utility is not usually an ergodic quantity in the mathematical models used by economists, and maximizing its expected value doesn't mean much in the real world.

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1/6 How can I put this? "Expected-utility maximizers don't maximize utility." Why? Because utility is not usually an ergodic quantity in the mathematical models used by economists, and maximizing its expected value doesn't mean much in the real world.

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3/ What does that mean? I would say it means that this core concept of orthodox economics -- utility -- is meaningless and misleading. But don't take my word for it - this is known: empirically, expected-utility theory and its descendants, like prospect theory etc., don't work.

4/ That was established in an admirable effort by 4 economists, experts in expected-utility theory, who reviewed 8 decades of empirical work, concluding: "The power to predict out-of-sample is in the poor to non-existent range." See "Risky Curves" routledge.com/Risky-Curves...

routledge.comRisky Curves: On the Empirical Failure of Expected UtilityFor several decades, the orthodox economics approach to understanding choice under risk has been to assume that each individual person maximizes some sort of personal utility function defined over pur...

1/6 How can I put this? "Expected-utility maximizers don't maximize utility." Why? Because utility is not usually an ergodic quantity in the mathematical models used by economists, and maximizing its expected value doesn't mean much in the real world.

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The result is a book that will enable its readers to go far beyond it. It's not a collection of papers, nor a comprehensive survey. It's a launch pad. Absorb what's in this book and take it in entirely new directions.

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We start by introducing tools we found to be useful over the years, wherever they came from. Next we think about a single person making trivial decisions, then increase the complexity of the decisions one step at a time. We create a temporal context, and add ignorance.

Then move to collections of individuals, then let them interact. At each level our thinking is informed by the ergodicity problem: how does our perspective change when we move from a statistical-ensemble perspective to a temporal perspective?

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Something genuinely new was emerging. While there are several excellent critiques of economic theory, including by some of its key architects, what we were developing was a constructive alternative.

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In 2015, I presented a set of lectures on the topic in Chandigarh, India. My haphazard notes for these lectures, co-authored in a rush with Alex Adamou, became a secret classic, with tens of thousands of downloads from my homepage alone.

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Sending this straight to the publisher.

Lee Simpson@leesimpson.bsky.social

I'm not qualified to express an opinion on this work but Ole is a fascinating and mischievous thinker so I'm prepared to bet it is a bit of all right.

So there's this country. It produces money, electronically. Then sends that money to other countries, and in return receives all the goods its citizens might want. Just for sending an electronic notification that it's created more money. And it doesn't like that.