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Gimlet Eye, the problem is. Not so long before Trump and all the problems of his first administration we had Bush Jr. Remember "weapons of mass destruction" was the excuse to push for a war. And they never appeared. America is not what it was 30 or 40 years ago.

This isn't the first time such a bill has been submitted, and it won't be the last. It's performative loyalty-signaling to Trump and will die an unmourned death. Massie's among the dimmer bulbs in the chandelier, and hasn't grasped yet that it's time to prepare for the post-Trump era.

In the end, trumpian ties to russia will force the US to abandon NATO in search of deeper money laundering opportunities and the adoption of antidemocracy measures directly from russia. There is no real way to reach their goal without that step, they also need it to fully ditch international order.

Gurney embraces the usual fallacy in this obituary of assuming the future of US-allied relations will follow a linear trajectory from today's bad place. Yes, post-Trump relations won't be the same, but there's a powerful underlying logic to the partnership that remains.

If, once the USA recovers its sanity -- it will -- then the advantages of a good relationship will return, and so will a good relationship. Admittedly, there will be some suspicions. Trump is the endpoint of long process of decline. After him, the USA starts going back up.

Since the last people with meaningful memory of that time are dying out, there is nothing to forgive anymore. Whatever resentment is left is just run of the mill local rivalries with some historically illiterate people dishonoring the memory of Hitler’s victims using them to score points.

All true, but I recall a Frenchman telling me some decades ago that they bore no real grudge against the Germans, because they were "sincerely contrite". Americans are already contrite about Trump. The backlash against him is building and will become overwhelming.

I think the superlative is justified. Yes, "never" is a long time. But even in the example you give, West Germany had to endure partition and yes, its former war officers brought to justice before any of this trust was extended.

I completely disagree ! Never before in the history of the alliance has a U.S. leader openly committed an act of betrayal by working for the Kremlin’s KGB-FSB gang. Russian barbarians openly mock you.

Just going back to more sane foreign policies will not be enough, IMO. That's happened before, both after GWB and after Trump's first term. Some European politician recently said something along the lines of "we're tired of US foreign policy hinging on 70,000 pissed off people in WI, MI, and PA."

Some Americans understand the damage being done, some dont. There is arguement that US needed to pull back, not be so omnipresent but that's a far cry from being what is is now which is arguably a Russian ally. This is what happens when you reelect someone like trump knowing how deeply flawed he is.