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the zine is pretty much complete and I'm now onto the shopping around for printers stage and I still have no clue what a realistic number of copies to order would be

I’ve also seen a lot of people do preorders for projects that are bigger than their usual stuff, yet smaller than what might warrant a kickstarter! can help give better peace of mind for a ballpark. (you’ll probably want a Proof/sample anyway, for a run over 20 imo)

thats fair! tbh i’ve always just made estimate first runs too (and they’re always too big or too small) and it’s not a big deal either way lol. just need a place to store extras or need to immediately order another run