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"Talk to customers" is the same kind of advice as "lift weights" — it's directionally correct and also lacking sufficient detail to be useful. In the same way that you can spend hours in the gym and see no results, you can spend hours with customers and get nothing out of it.

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Doing this well requires you: 1. Have a reason to talk to customers 2. Talk to the right customers 3. Talk about the right things 4. Actually engage in what they're saying rather than just listening to hear validation.

Decision-making is like wheel of fortune. It's important to focus your time and energy on getting new letters on the board, not just going through the motions for the same ones. You also need to be focused on the decisions that actually drive the business forward.

Knowing who to talk to and what to talk about can be a challenge. I use this mad libs style exercise with clients to help them articulate who they want to engage with and on what topics. This helps us to identify the attributes, experiences, and problems we should recruit for.

Listening just for validation is a common pitfall. I see so many people asking biased questions diminishing the value of user research. There are some really good books out there on how to ask questions. But if I had to pick one that is accessible, I would recommend The Mom Test.

One of my fav allegories is how "influencer" product managers are shouting about "talk to X (amount of) customers weekly!" but with no real substance beyound some pre-defined questions in their previous newsletter/post. As you can imagine, this rarely *just* works.

People need to get started the most. Sometimes the learning process is slower. However pretty sure if someone takes a walk and goes just for 60 minutes to the gym 4x a week there is good progress after a year.

I agree that getting started helps, but I've watched people spend a year going to the gym, do the wrong things, and be worse off than where they started.