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Mixing bulleted lists with numbered lists with task lists like this, with `tab` handling for sublists? And the right HTML on the other side? With zero plugins? In ~1k lines of code? Prosemirror could never! Tossed it on GitHub: github.com/bholmesdev/b...

It’s all fun and games for the simple stuff but wait until you get to adding more complex interactions. Slate has a low floor and low ceiling. And ProseMirror has a high floor and high ceiling

I can +1 this. We were using Slate in production a few years ago and it was a never ending cause of headaches, we invested time to switch to TipTap and all of them went away.

i am rebuilding the @offprint.app editor, i will be stealing this as a good example of how lists should be able to work, thank you

If you need something truly custom, I can highly recommend Lexical. Been using it on a job that needs some crazy text editor features and I couldn't imagine anything better lexical.dev

To be honest, lexical has been incredibly frustrating for me, both from a setup standpoint and a docs standpoint. Am I missing something? Bc it feels somehow more complicated than Prosemirror

The docs are definitely lacking (but improving!) and it certainly isn't the simplest option. It's more like a set of tools for building your own text editor from the ground up, rather than a library accommodating lots of common use cases.

I struggled A LOT to implement a bullet system from scratch with vanilla ProseMirror a couple of years ago. It's been almost a decade since I last used Slate. It was way easier than PM but the future of the project seemed dubious. I see it's still in beta 😬