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Just code it.

I am really not sure whether I agree that somebody that posts that his magic beans don’t work even though he has tweaked the fertilizer repeatedly is nearly there.

The neat thing about llms is that it's every time a great example of fucking around and finding out.

I don't use it but in my experience, every time a coworker uses copilot to create or comment on a PR it usually ends up adding an unnecessary and entirely wrong explanation of what the motivation/purpose of the change is.

I'll get it to do create short functions, like moving a file from S3 to Dropbox, see what methods it uses then go look up the actual definition for those methods and API calls etc. It's like picking apart a suggestion box.

holy god

I love that he added to the prompt “please don’t over complicate things” like that will fix the fundamental issue

Schrodinger’s Product

Ah not to worry, round of borderline illegal layoffs, and a golden parachute as he moved on to greener pastures. Fuck, I hate corporate culture.

I have a policy of never copying anything from sites like Stackoverflow, even if I'm using it. It's better to write it yourself, then you have to think about every line and why/if it's actually needed in my case.

What happened to not reading the code? I thought we were vibe coding

Given most orgs don’t bother doing it today, they’d rather apologise with a “we take security seriously” and another round of ceo bonuses

the divestment in junior engineers is possibly one of the biggest detriments of the AI hype era. The industry as a whole will pay for it in the long run.

I've done my share of greenfield dev over a 25 year career, but I've mainly been a BAU/maintenance developer, working on 5-15+ year old codebases. If I stick at it I see myself being as valuable as the the Y2K COBOL devs in a few years time. AI can't even begin to debug and refactor like a human.

I've been excitedly saying this since the beginning of generated code!

The problem is that they already have a lot of production code they don’t understand, and they’re never willing to address that base problem. COBOL coders get paid less than data scientists.

We've had actual orders come down from the board of execs that we should be using it more. Thankfully someone lower down had the idea to put together a working group to actually investigate where and to what extent AI might be actually useful to employees.

[twitch] there is nothing wrong with passive voice if the focus of the sentence is the object of the transitive verb is the focus of the sentence Strunk & White have much to answer for

This is exactly what they did with writers and copyeditors. It's an extention of the same grift. Editing generated slop always requires a full rewrite, but employers expect to pay the same rate as a polish. The end result is the same as with failures of automated labor: depressed wages for all.

That's why they're asking Reddit.

Right? Vibe coding is for small non-consequential code just to fuck around with things and see what comes out. You absolutely can not use it for projects this complex.

But then OP has to learn swift.

jfc. just learn some basic swift and find some templates to make a minimally functional app.

A mark of a good developer is not writing more code than needed. Generating tons of fresh code rather than understanding what's there spells trouble.

Oh no, dude is getting frustrated! And now having to deal with the English language, actual words: "NO you keep this, only change that, I told you!".

cant believe adding "dont over complicate things" to the prompt didnt fix it