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Per a family member in East Tennessee who works at a BBQ joint, the Trumpers at work are MAD about Trump and Vance’s attack on Zelenskyy + the mass firing of veterans who work for the federal government. So that’s a data point

That they’re upset about the veterans doesn’t surprise me That they’re upset about Zelensky really really does! That means they’re picking a foreigner OVER their man Trump. WTF is up with that?? Can you explain? I don’t know any MAGA but this seems really significant. I didn’t think I’d see it.

Ok I get that “old Americans hate Russia” also applies to MAGA but 1. More than they love Trump?? 2. Didn’t they notice that he was a Ruzz asset the FIRST time? Are they really only picking up on this now? Seriously, I was under the impression that MAGA was just fine with Russia. So puZZled.

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"didn't they notice the first time?" No. They didn't want to and there was always some Fox pundit telling them why it was okay. It is hard to find a better word than "heartbreaking" to describe the scope of ignorance boasted by conservatives voting against themselves because they don't/can't get it

Before, Trump's relationship with Russia was a bit abstract for low information voters. Ukraine's fight matches a lot of stories that are deeply embedded in American culture, and that's much less abstract. Also, Trump & Vance's behavior violated every norm of hospitality.