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I’m thinking about federal income tax. If the federal government isn’t meeting its obligations why should we? Specifically, I’d love to see states get the money first and hold it in trust pending litigation. I want to pay my taxes but not to a government that doesn’t respect the constitution.

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In addition the states can deduct funds for lawful programs first before forwarding any funds to the federal government. This would fundamentally change the relationship between the states and the federal government of course. All states.

The oligarchs don't just want our tax, they NEED it. Now we know the need it, withholding tax can be a legitimate form of protest in this current period. It must be organized and coordinated to ensure they can't go after individuals alone. this tax protest is absolutely what is needed.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting any individual not pay their taxes now. I’d love to see this be collective action led by the states.

My aunt, who’s been doing other’s income taxes for the past 25 years said that now is not the time to file. The IRS isn’t stable enough and may need to get court injunctions to keep people working. With that being said she said that filing for an extension now is optimal. But you can do whatever 🤷‍♀️

Good idea or not, there’s no mechanism for it. The biggest regular flow of tax money is payroll deduction. Most employers use payroll services that withhold taxes and pay Treasury directly.

I kind of am suggesting that we should all stop paying federal income tax. I understand the risks but EOTD if you could get 10%-30% of the people who voted for Kamala to do it, it would be impactful. I'd love to see the blue state Govs get together & discuss some of what you suggest.

How about if we all go exempt and stop paying any taxes to Medicare or Social Security until they can tell us that it’s gonna be there for us. I do payroll.

I have been staying the same thing! I will gladly pay my share to my state even though I live in a red state, at least my Republican governor is decent.

The year 2087: the powerful have AIs automatically litigating every tax bill. Society grinds to a halt as humanity endures decades of appeals for any publicly owned product or service. This new monetary system hinges on a law clerk sifting through AI generated sludge for every transaction.

100000000% agree. If an unelected billionaire is making all the decisions and our representatives in congress aren’t doing anything to stop it and have no control. One might just say this is taxation without representation.

Well said. I'm thinking of at least changing my contributions to pay just the minimum federal amount. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Then again, I'm an immigrant and would likely get deported. 🤣

I have been saying this for a while on here. It’s the most effective way to make Congress functional again. They’ll have to behave to getting funds for anything. It’s also likely unconstitutional. But since much of what’s happening is already that, we might as well do it anyway.

Blue states need to stop supporting and carrying red states. Demand full accounting of why red states can’t survive on their own as blue states do.

I couldn’t agree more. Been thinking about how we could put a “pause” on tax payments or filings as we ponder the government’s wasteful spending. The idea of filing with the state first would really do a number on the system, especially with the announcement of major layoffs in the IRS!

Future casting is an interesting thing, it’s knowledge and reason people making predictions based in reality of the future. Heard a future cast where California did this, refused to pay the federal government tax revenue above what they receive Back in benefits. Legit could happen

This might be the perfect mass protest to block Trump and Musk from using taxpayer funds to line their pockets without providing taxpayers the security and services our taxes are intended to provide. Somebody like Marc Elias of Democracy Docket could provide legal advice on this approach.

This is what pisses me off. I never minded paying taxes because I enjoy free roads and public institutions and believe in a public safety net. I DO mind handing my money to thieves who already have more money than anyone in the history of the planet. Use my tax $ for good shit or give it back.

It would be an interesting experiment having every state fund their own needs and not pay into a federal tax. It would be a rough lesson for poor red states who tend to call out “lib states” like CA and NY. Good luck Florida surviving your next hurricane.

I called my congressman and asked why are my taxes going up if half the government is gone? Shouldn't I be getting a refund??? Where exactly is my money going if programs and positions are being decimated? The staffer - who was very nice, as was I in my questioning - had no answer.

Do we all change our federal withholding to the max NOT PULLED OUT PER PAY PERIOD that is allowed??? Then file extension after extension.. After all wasn’t MANGO MUSSOLINI UNDE AUDIT LIKE FOREVER???

There is a way to do it. It’s really easy. File your taxes but don’t send money. Not a crime to not pay your taxes. Can’t be jailed for it. The will garnish your wages a small percentage to pay it over time. That’s all they can do. Been there. Done that.

And you can file an extension too until October. Even though you will have to pay interest on what you owe, you can still do it. I'll pay my 2024 taxes, I messed up and owed several hundred but I'll wait until October to file and then ask to get on a payment plan. A lot can happen from now to then.

My post on resistance a couple of days ago: bsky.app/profile/ogre...

OgreDragon@ogredragon.bsky.social

The Resistance: what Can you do tomorrow; Change your FICA Status: By having ZERO withheld you can deprive the government of Funds.. If all 30 Million Blue Sky subscribers did this. It would have a Huge impact on the government. If you are scared.. put the estimated tax in a savings account

There must be a legal remedy for this. If only to reclaim monies lawfully due to each state. We are paying to be sick, hungry, jobless, bankrupt, uneducated, unemployed,humiliated and shot in the back and in the face Who in their right mind would "chip in" for that?

Well, ends up I went to an advisor and learned I was due a refund so I filed electronically (mistake there?) and got my $$ in a week. Now elon has all my info. If I owed I likely would not have filed 🤷🏻‍♀️

Income tax is something that was brought about in place of tariffs on other countries. Other countries still place tariffs on us, and we get taxed multiple times on the same dollar to pay for it while putting almost no tariffs on others. Blind, deaf, and dumb Americans are clueless to this.

Plus if there taking away government institutions and destroying them. Where is my money going then. I don’t want a space ship trying to go to mars. We have to take care of our planet before they decide to ruin another one.

Perfect, nobody pay taxes until Elon & Trump are arrested and every dude pulling punches from the Libertarian bag of tricks are deported or on an island surrounded by killer sharks. Make the sharks go thru sharks if they want to come for us.

Audit who? With what personnel? They keep firing everyone who knows how to get anything done around there. I think they believe they can input everyone's info into AI and auto audit, but do you trust that??

I have been wondering why we should be paying taxes. If our services are being gutted then there is no reason to pay into this country. These idiots in office (on both sides) do not deserve to be paid. They aren't doing anything for us.

Great idea. We should boycott a specific oil company and force them into a price war. Same thing with certain food corporations. The boycott against Tesla has already started. We also have to protest hard and loud. We need bulldog leaders who aren't afraid to bare teeth.

I think focused rolling boycotts are the way to go. One corporation one month and another the next month. One oil company for a month and then another for the next. They will still have to pay to keep the machine running. We just need a leader with a list of the worst companies.

Important to understand. Federal Taxes exist to DESTROY money. They do not pay for anything. Taxes should prevent excessive wealth accumulation, where "excessive" means enough to buy a Senator, a Supreme Court Justice, a Law, or the information the society needs to know.

Obviously, most of us should not be paying ANY, and the people who should be paying aren't. Funny how that always happens. Even without a Democracy, the corrosion appears. bsky.app/profile/bjch...

bj_chippindale@bjchippindale.bsky.social

Why is the descent into oligarchy and fascism so historically inevitable that Benjamin Franklin predicted ours so well? It is the money, of course, but what is it about our money that makes it so useful and, at the same time, so poisonous to the body politic?

Every time I pay my state income taxes, or my local property tax, I'm frankly happy. My city has many beautiful parks and the millages always go to useful shit. My state property taxes? Samesies. Paying my federal property taxes feels like giving a chimpanzee coke. Just...contributing to bad vibes

It would be great if we could do that, but that would mean a complete collapse of our government. We're in this fix because of all the tax cuts. Cost of living doesn't decrease unfortunately.

I’m wondering if anyone will actually get a return this year. Wouldn’t be surprised if no tax returns or an inconsistent number of returns are processed for Fed taxes.

Wasn’t there talk about untaxing our overtime as well? I’m a very worn out healthcare worker whose entire hospital is understaffed. We pick up not to be greedy but to ensure our patients get the treatment they need and the staff is not overwhelmed. We all do this as a calling so why be punished ?

Only issue I can see is the quarterly taxes. Because most people get it taken out by their employer (and paid to the gov) their quarterly taxes are paid on time and basically won’t default. This is concerning because what would happen to the people b/c that’s considered tax evasion, aka prison (1/2)

(2/2) buuuuut if enough people do that… it could work. It would be hard, but it’s definitely a tactic to use. I still need to pay some taxes and I’m super conflicted mainly because of fear. It would be nice to receive some actual direction about this.

I believe most people want to pay a fair share of taxes to support programs that keep the govt running efficiently. This admin is not doing this and doesn't care about the middle. You will see a new tax cut supported by cuts to Medicare medicaid,social security etc. 1%ers make out again.

I was thinking about that, too. Why should I file my taxes only for Musk and DOGE to get my info? Filing taxes this year is a data privacy/security concern. They haven’t stated a purpose, they’re not taking only what they need, and who knows how long they’ll hold it for.

An extension to file isn’t an extension to pay. Regardless if you file they have your wage & income information and a dummy return on file for you. They know how much owe and it will accrue interest and penalties daily. You’re only screwing yourself by not filling.