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I’ll never ever believe that Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris lost their elections and Jack Smith’s damning testimony only helps to cement that for me.

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I think 2016 was legit. 2024? Not even close. Musk found a way to manipulate the tabulation. The numbers were so abnormal that it should've set off alarm bells in every swing state & in the Harris campaign. Counties that have been blue since the 1800s flipped red? Nope, not buying it.

Trump cheated in both elections with the help of Putin's hackers and Elon's DOGE. bsky.app/profile/umai...

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Trump said Elon knows vote-counting computers better than anybody. Musk communicated with Putin for more than two years and Russian troops had access to Starlink. Not one individual in the Democratic Party questioned a single thing. No investigations!? thiswillhold.substack.com/p/the-electi...

In contrast to the Big Lie where the GOP had absolutely nothing except lies and fabrications. Which they might well have spread back in the day specifically to prepare for the next election. Just like qAnon / Pizzagate tried to lay the groundwork for lots of Epstein denial / cover-up. thread

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*Elite defection* is how you win - that's why Epstein, Maxwell and others spent 30 years entrapping the most powerful people in the country into a s€xual blackmail scheme. To prevent elite defection, to get people bought into the plot against demoracy.

And so the Democratic party, including Harris and lots of senior U. S. Senators, fell over themselves to hand the country to the fascist wolves as quickly as possible. PRIDING themselves on how smooth the transition went. Selling it to their constituents as EXTRA democratic.

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"Those precious few Dems that are trying to do something about the ongoing, slow-moving coup, are trying to do everything by the book, or at least pretending to do so. But you cannot go by the book if *the book is burning,* or if the book is *the fucking Necronomicon!"* Sarah Kendzior, 2018

Here is the blueprint for Election Fraud 2024 used by Elon/DOGE/Putin to install Trump and GOP in power. It is too sophisticated for the geezers in Congress and Senate to follow. They need to get up to speed before the next election.

Clinton definitely lost, albeit with the aid of coordinated misinformation network. Harris is more murky, for sure. But, it shouldn't have even been close. She ran the worst possible campaign against a supposedly anti-establishment candidate. I voted for both and campaigned vigorously for Harris.

I believe you are failing to recognize how racist, sexist and stupid many Americans are, and how much damage right wing propaganda has done. Unfortunaeky, i find it all to easy to believe Clinton and Harris really did lose their elections.

This might sound a little strange, but please hear me out. In a way, it's less painful for me to believe both of those elections were stolen, than it is to believe that the majority of my countrymen actually wanted this

I'm right there with you Hopeful. Musk has said over and over he got Trump elected. I believe he used SkyLink to do it. Eventually it will come out, but it's too late for Harris

Trump either rigs or tries to steal elections, Russia, Russia, Russia in 2016 and Jan. 6 in 2020 elections. We just need to figure out what he did in 2024 to rig the last one. He’s a consummate conman, thief and criminal.

I’m still confident in the systems in place at the time. Not enough voters turned out, and even women voted against them. I’m not unaware of Russian interference, though. Or Elon’s. And Rogan’s stupid, stupid megaphone.

The election results were consistent with swing state polls. There was no shocking "upset" anywhere. 🙄 bsky.app/profile/sjon...

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Go back and look at all the polls leading up to the election. What you will find is that all the swing state polls, taken by pollsters across the political spectrum, showed the same thing. A toss-up. And the results of the election are consistent with polls. So quit with the BS conspiracy nonsense.

All of you saying this with such assurance: if you have any evidence that isn’t circumstantial (T thanking Elon) or simply wrong (Elon, just by shit-posting on X, swayed grown adults to vote against their interests), you do know that any lawyer or firm will take your case, right?

putin/manafort & netanyahu/stone/flynn all in on propaganda against them-trump was easy to manipulate-remember he was broke in 2014-now with his grifting &quidproquo deals for himself-hes a billionaire-he also could never lose to an ethical woman, educated & qualified to be a world leader

I can imagine how great we would have been by now if Hillary had won that election. We would all have healthcare. We would be thriving. Our allies would be strong. And we would be a respected nation. Not…….. whatever this is. 😢

Watch the Jack Smith deposition. It's American history in real time. Jack Smith is an American hero. "It was an attempt to overthrow the government, and it was illegal." -Jack Smith "I have never had a defendant with this many charges and not spend one day in jail." -Jasmine Crocket

People, he won both. Denying this is not healthy. We have to recognize the amount of a) racism / xenophobia in our country b) economically desperate people willing to blow it all up. If we can address B we can marginalize the A, maybe.

Eliminating dog shit candidates prevents this sort of next-day armchair quarter-backing. Maybe they won, maybe they lost, who knows- but putting an end to this fetish of running objectively bad candidates that you can honestly understand someone's objections to voting for them might help the cause.

Anyone who utters the phrase, "I’ll never ever believe that..." are unlikely to be on the side of reality and facts. The notion that the 2016 & 2024 elections were "stolen" is just as nonsensical as the notion that the 2020 election was "stolen." Some people have difficulty coping with reality.

I think you’re being ridiculous. Look at the Rockland County lawsuit or the federal lawsuit out of Florida involving vote flipping. I think Trump DID rig the 2020 election and was SHOCKED the efforts failed. He upped his efforts in 2024. Failure to believe facts makes YOU the conspiracy nut.

We know that he cheated the first time, there was a court case that he lost, plus we all heard him say “Russia, if you’re listening”, plus there was the Cambridge Analytica stuff… and given that he paid no penalty for cheating, it’s more than reasonable to guess that he cheated in 2020 and 2024 too.

They lost for the same reason. Neither of them ever figured out how to wash off the disinformation they were painted with. It's a hard problem. Disinformation is very powerful. That's why Mamdani needs to be studied. He had everything going against him (Muslim, Socialist) and won handily.

Trump has cheated at everything his entire life. To think that for this one time for the 2024 election- the most critical event of his life - he played it fair is absolutely absurd.

They are manipulating Electoral College votes somehow. That's what he wanted to do in the 2020 election. Hilary won the popular vote by 3 million, Electoral College is not Democracy. Get rid of it.

We are not a Democracy We are not majority rule We are not getting the will of the people We are not individually franchising Congress made our voting system to benefit themselves. Just give the one with more money the office 90% of the time. Same results. open.substack.com/pub/mrnobody...

open.substack.comWe end up with the will of the people who made our voting system, congress. Not the people in our voting system. We are not voting.I am looking for mathematicians and data and cognitive scientists to collaborate and let more people have the chance to be aware of these ideas.

Oh 100%agree, the orange piggy is kissing Putins ass because of dirt he has on him with election fraud or Epstein or both. For 4 years he tried to prove election fraud when Biden won. A crook thinks everyone is a crook a lier thinks everyone lies.

Yes, those elections really were stolen unlike for traitor Trump’s claim. He’ll be rigging midterms, we MUST BEWARE, BE ON GUARD AND BE PRESENT IN EVERY VOTING CENTER. To get out from under this regime, we MUST be aggressive in seeing, reporting and acting upon any semblance of pilfering by GOP

If you believe that, then you better believe they will do their best to rig this next election too. And they are in charge of everything now, so hold on tight.

Hillary did lose. We didn't show up at the polls. Dem voting was down to historic lows in 2016. We all assumed she'd win. 2024 margins were so tight Elon successfully rigged swing states for Trump to steal the election.

I don't believe votes were tossed. The margins were too close. It had to do with flipping everyone's votes who signed up for the "lotteries" somehow. Their data was manipulated somehow.

Putin is a communist cult leader The Ayatollah is a Theocratic cult leader Netanyahu is a Theocratic cult leader Trump is a Theocratic cult leader Kim Jong-un is a communist cult leader Xi is a communist cult leader

Personally I believe everything was given an update & tried again. I know I'm looking at puzzle pieces that may or may not go together. What I believe may or may not be correct. I'm not an investigator. OTP vp www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023...

theguardian.comTrump allies face potential charges in Georgia over voting machine breachesExclusive: Fulton county DA has evidence to charge Trump allies with computer trespass, two people briefed on the matter say

You should believe the result. There are more than 1 million official and polling workers and robust systems in counting and certifying votes, and you had a democratic President and senate in place at the time of the election.

I knew by midnight something was super fishy. Went to bad bothered. Woke up horrified. Knew immediately Phone calls that failed in 2020 worked on 2016 because men are traitors to women

Yes, the public was groomed by the “right” for years by constant complaints of voter fraud. It was all projection, and their plan to do it to their advantage. They rigged against Hillary and Kamala, but somehow Joe had a better turnout than they expected.

I can believe Hilary because she is a woman, and I'd say the same for Kamala except I've seen the math and its not right.There was another recent election that mimicked it. The dem. Was in the lead and at the very last second, they found a bunch of votes, killing it for her. But the math didn't math

We deny this country's deeply rooted sexism and racism at our own peril. As somebody who lives in a red swing state, I can assure you the backlash against both was unreasonable and gross, but very real. We need to face this head on and find some way to change it rather than deny it.

You're right! Hard to say people who look like you, related to you, live near you are sexist or racist. History is not taught completely because it will sound unpatriotic. The myth of rugged individualism has some thinking that they and only their kind built this country & empowers in a bad way.

We would be so much better off, in so many ways, if Hilary and Kamala had each been President, and Jack Smith had been brought in as Special Counsel at the beginning of 2021.

They did lose. And pretending they didn’t makes Dems sound as loony as the MAGAts. It is t productive. It undermines legitimate election results and erodes confidence in democracy. It also increases the chances that Dems repeat the same mistakes. The Electoral College is the problem. It’s the only

He thanked Musk "on camera" for helping him win the election. I heard him say something to the effect of Musk's help w/ the voting machines & purging ballots of ppl that illegally voted. I've never believed trump won the 2024 election... or the 2016 election where Russia interfered.

Russia didn't change votes and neither did musk besides millions of dollars donated...his endorsement..which was huge...and buying Twitter and controlling the narrative. If you believe he magically changed election totals...then 2020 could've been stolen too. And that is just as asinine.

Why didn't musk rig the Wisconsin Supreme court seat he gave 10 million and personally rallied for???? Why didnt he flip Senate seats to give Republicans filibuster proof majority??? Just the top of the ticket ..sure lolol. So stupid. I hate Trump..but Harris was dragged down by Biden.

And his minions of morons laughed. It was no joke, he meant it. tRump the royal family of Amerika, a satellite country controlled by Russia and worldwide oligarchs

Oh, I believe it. Don't fall into the trap. There's a whole lot of shitty people that show up to vote - and way too many "oh, my vote's too good to waste it on Kamala or Hillary and I'm holding out for so-and-so because everyone knows the dem primary was rigged" people in the Dem tend. #VoteBlue

I do agree. I don’t know why the swing states weren’t recounted! The percentage of bullet ballots in those states was way suspicious!!!

They didn’t It’s what makes me NUTS Over people here saying THE MIDTERMS Will fix everything Not w/o election integrity They won’t And we do t have that Right now DO NOT WAIT TIL NOV 2 SHORE IT UP #Mm

This country is undeniably sexist and racist. Too many Americans will always vote for the white guy no matter how horrible he is and destructive his policies are... We may have been better off if Joe hadn't won. That gave them four years to write Project 2025 and regroup...

Clinton lost. She was truly a hated person by the left and the middle, and the bullshit that the Democrats pulled during the primaries cemented it. Harris on the other hand, I have serious doubts about 2024, especially with the DOGE efforts which pretty clearly was an effort at scrubbing information

Paul Manafort handed over GOP internal polling to Deripaska right b4 an election. Facebook knew where to target their audience. Tucker used his "journalism credentials" to interview Putin IN Russia Right b4 an election Russia knew where to target bomb threats. Tuckers son now works for JD.

Same. And GOP is so fucked up, they counted on us not questioning anything bc we dont want to be seen as unhinged as they are…can we now stop with the whole being scared of them shit? They clearly are not scared of us, and nothing too low for them, so let them freak out, who f’ing cares anymore.

Let MAGA and the right get all violent-ty…show their true colors, again. Let’s question everything bc they do. We gave them a chance to be decent, follow norms and laws, they failed so who cares if MAGA gets mad, they will only act out and reinforce what we already know..they are a violent cult.