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Artists on twitter are currently having a huge anti-tracing shitfight where certain artists are actually delusional enough to compare tracing 3D models to using AI. It is a truly fucking miserable and unserious place.

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It's genuinely a perfectly legitimate art method and it's insane to me that people actually argue over it. What makes drawing freehand ok, making and rendering a 3D model ok, but combining the 2 methods at all wrong?! Anyone heard of rotoscoping?

Leaving twitter was rough for financial reasons but every day people remind me of what goes on over there I'm thankful I no longer have to see that shit lol.

they're posting videos themselves freehand drawing like 😏😏😏 heh, you lazy so-called-artists need to learn what drawing,, actually is, like me, a real artist, 😤😤😤👋🍆💦 it is so embarrassing you are so embarrassing please for the love of god give me a lobotomy

I genuinely believe anti-tracing ideology is a slipery slope. Because it then becomes oh well in that case if you photobash youre also cheating! and then if you use too much reference you're cheating! and then actually, if you think about it, digital art is lowkey cheating!

The only valid way to draw becomes charcoal on the face of a cave but only if you've made sure to never look at the subject of what you're drawing, actually just be blind, claw your eyes out, thats the only way it comes from real raw self-created suffering-built skill!!!

mixed media is cheating! Photography is cheating! The only real and valid skill is accurately capturing something with lines you draw with nothing but your hand, using minimal-to-no reference! Composition? Design? Colour-grading? Compositing? Typography? Silhouette? Those aren't real skills i guess!

it never fucking ends. it never ends. A new generation of artists hit 20 years old and start the fight all over again. I saw this fight unfold in the comment section of griffsnuff's deviantart journals when i was 14 years old we neeD TO FUCKING MOVE ON

I a song from Mewgenics has a specific verse in the song "Crazy Days" that just fit my feelings about this kind of stuff with deadly accuracy "The whole world looks like a burning garbage truck"

what in the helll 😭 do these people think you just... become good at art just by not learning?? Like idk man, sometimes i need to trace something to understand its shapes??? and also comic artists?? Interior artwork?? 3d models are TOOLS and they're made by PEOPLE- wild WILD comparison to make

for real, good lord-- reminds me of a comic i saw about comic artists reusing drawings and panels and that it was cheating and 'uncreative' and the whole comic consisted of just 2 drawings reused over and over with different dialogue like bro stfu

They have no skill, are entitled and lazy. "Do these people think you just become good at art?" I am certain they do believe to a certain degree that talents are born and not made, that skills are just randomly assigend and not honed. Explains why they think that the AI-theft-machine is...

art is supposed to be an expression of someone's feelings or inner world or idk, ideas!!!! It was never meant to be some slop you barf into the world and go 'see i can make art!!' its not about that and GOD people seem to miss that point entirely- its about the process, what you learn HOW you learn

... "democratizing" art. Like there was any actual barrier of entrance to becoming an artist. You can draw with your finger in the sand or make collages of stones and dead leaves if you can't afford drawing supplies. Basically it's a bunch of entitled idiots talking nonsense.

Oh my god I was just having a similar conversation of this w a friend. We are both casual artists and I've even had the your using a ref pose that's copyrighted to me argument used on me once. It still traumatizes me to this day ugh. It's like dude look at 2d animation it's heavy refs etc

People who can't logically differentiate between manual labor and an automated process should never be given a platform to spew their nonsense; for they are clearly idiots, and their idiocy might infect other people.