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Elite impunity is perhaps the single greatest problem in American politics going back to Gerald Ford’s Watergate pardons. These people keep getting away with it. This needs to stop.

Patrick Monahan@pattymo.com

It’s cool, and not incredibly demoralizing, that the last ~25 years (? more?) have been an increasingly flagrant demonstration that The Rules, as we were brought up to understand them, just do not apply to a lot of people

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joel hanes@joelhanes.bsky.social

> It's the billionaires Hmm. For me, it's more the utter collapse of the rule of law -- the promise of a government of laws, not of men. Elite impunity, whether it's billionaires buying government, no-badge ICE, DOGE vandalism, LEO "qualified immunity", frat rapists, SCOTUS grant Trump immunity

A big advantage Trump had after the Mar a Lago raid was, there was a very long track record of ā€œimportant people get away with intelligence violations that would send an LTJG to prisonā€. No, nobody else was as flagrant as Trump, but they all ignored laws and they all got away with it.

It is the single greatest threat to society and should, in my opinion, be managed by actually having MORE consequences for Elites. People with power should be subject to more severe punishment for violations of the rules all things being equal.

the 'we' of 'we the people' is a group of elites claiming an absolute right to impunity it's the ideology of divine rights without the known weakness of a singular and removable head

S Korea has imprisoned 5 presidents since the 90s, but a recent president (Yoon) still declared martial law and deployed troops to parliament to block lawmakers from voting and to arrest political opponents. So maybe prison isn't a cure all. Then again, Yoon was very likely inspired by Jan 6.

And he got replaced by Tina Smith who was arguably even better. Literally nothing for anyone to reasonably whine about regarding him getting nailed for being a creep.

I feel like this has always been the case we're just seeing it play out more. And even the people who are supposed to be on the people's side don't seem to want do anything to the dickbags when they gain power. They see them as co-workers they're having a disagreement with instead of enemies.

And the definition of ā€˜elite’ keeps expanding to include even the most petty of tyrants! Like why does the secretary of the local police precinct get a little piece of paper that says she doesn’t have to follow the law with her car?

I’m hardly a radical, having worked in the federal government for almost 40 years, but I agree this is a very big problem (and has been for a while).

The pardon is a visible instance but I'd suggest the conditions that made it possible are the security state & the permanent war that started with Truman, McCarthy, Korea. A President that can unilaterally end the world is bound to get ideas. Our secret knowledge justifies us, always.

Sometimes being powerful and important means you get twice the perks and benefits, and sometimes being powerful and important means you have to follow the rules twice as closely because more people scrutinize you. I think we should be the second kind of culture.

Arguably goes back to Andrew Johnson letting off the worst of the Confederates. I'm an advocate for some of the things the US gets right vis-a-vis other advanced democracies but holding powerful people to account is something we distinctly suck at.