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ICE can’t be reformed. What voters are we courting by being weak on this issue? Do we have some massive Dem donor that owns concentration camps or something?

Aaron Rupar@atrupar.com

Jeffries stop short of committing to holding a vote to abolish ICE is he's House Speaker next January, but says he's "committed to dramatically reforming ICE ... the masks should come off, body cameras should come on, judicial warrants should be required."

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ICE had to be demolished. Not down to the studs but foundation & all. Nothing but a vacant lot. There's no reform or salvaging any of what it has become. It's a terrorist organization & must be treated as such. There's zero room for anything we've witnessed and haven't witnessed. It. Can't. Exist.

Hakeem Jeffries is paid AIPAC and/or pro Isreal money, so I have lost all faith in him, and any other Democrats who do the same. Here's who they are, so we can hold them accountable: *Richie Torres (NY) *Pete Aguilar (CA) *Haley Stevens (MI) *Wesley Bell. (MO)

All questions worth asking. It’s wild how obvious it is when him and Schumer etc start talking, that they are beholden to someone other than the people

Of everything that’s happened one of the most disappointing is how much the dems failed to meet the moment and do anything about the current administration when we ALL KNEW their plan. So out of touch and useless

I see donations between $20,000 to $60,000 to Hakeem Jeffries from some seriously questionable organizations. One of them paid him an exorbitant amount right around the time they accidentally violated civil rights, leaking personal information about guests to ICE.

Unless we're all underestimating how badly the Republicans feel the need to hold onto power, and we're not keeping a close enough eye on them because we've lulled ourselves into thinking this will be another election like all previous elections.

Sure he does. He's undoing everything Obama did that he can because he is a racist & jealous & got his little feelings hurt by Obama at a WHCD. He's also a sociopathic delusional moron near the end of his life with zero fucks to give & it is only going to get worse. Much worse. Strap in, people.

I've seen some estimates as high as 100billion. And that was like a week or so ago. The figure you have was earlier on. They used up all the most advanced munitions. I've read that they are allowing some things to get hit. Because they don't have enough defense munitions to protect everything.

Why did he advance from the democratic primary without appearing on the ballot? We need a new leader, he’s passed his expiration date. Been in Congress since 2013. Time for him to step down.

Obama was the Great Deporter, and New Democrats are moderates on immigration. Only Putin-loving Bernie Bros support immigration reform. Also, since refugees and illegal immigrants are fleeing to Fennoscandia, northern Canada, the Russian Arctic, Greenland, and New Zealand reform is not needed.

Jeffries just doesn’t have what it takes to fight back.If he does, he hasn’t demonstrated it yet + the midterms are in 3 months.There are numerous Democrats able to deliver a more compelling, inspiring,blunt, frank message about Trump. Put them out front and center and convey their message DAILY!

I'm not sure on the political process but how does a party switch its leader. This "Business as Usual" guy as we are already in a FASCIST TAKEOVER has to go. Get AOC, Jasmine Crocket or one of the other Women with Cojones to lead.

Will our politicians listen to us? When we contact them in their local or DC office and tell their staffer that we don't want them to vote for Jeffries to be the Speaker of the House, will they listen? Both of my senators are D. I will share my opinion but not sure they will listen. Fingers crossed!

You know, the Democratic Party is the alternative to the Republican Party. Until that changes we have two choices. There’s a third choice which is not to vote at all. Maybe let’s vote the Republicans out first and then work on reforming the Democratic Party. If we don’t stand together, they will win

Both things can be true. The idea of abolishing the senate, borders and the police is not going to get swing voters and center left people to vote. Also, every chance that the current democrats get to speak about the corrupt, authoritarian party in power now must happen. The only goal, defeat them!

Dem. leaders feel as though they keep losing to Trump because of all the stupid sh*t he says and FOX echoes. People say, "Abolish ICE." Jeffries and the Dem. leadership hear "Open borders." or "Invitation to Tren de Aragua." or "They're taking your mother's cat and feeding it to the Haitians."

Democrats have to be PROGRESSIVE. No lukewarm positions when it comes to Fascism. Whatever ICE used to be, is gone. ICE are a Gestapo for a Fascist Trump Regime. ICE murder people, beat and torture people, and have pile people up in filthy FOR-PROFIT CONCENTRATION CAMPS! Crimes against humanity

Not sure about any Democratic support for this oversight but I guarantee one thing, leaving this door open is a clear invitation for the GOP to drive a truck through the hole🤬

"One cannot just abolish the Schutzstaffel. Who will people turn to when vermin minorities and traitors of the Aryan blood need denouncing and carting off to concentration camps? When dissidents need to be shot with impunity? Whose jurisdiction would that be then?" -centrist viewpoint some time ago

Can't bring a QTip to a knife fight. Jeffries cannot read a room, much less read the country. He needs to go, we need new blood. There's plenty of capable, realistic, savvy, & smart people to choose from. Those in touch w/ the horrific developments playing out. He needs to take his QTip & go.

This isn’t exciting or controversial. Everyone knows that immigration and customs enforcement are legitimate government functions that need to continue. Trump’s version is shit-molded and disinfecting will probably require a new agency. But “just disband it” is a political loser. Full stop.

It's more the obvious fear that Democrats like Jeffries have learned over many decades on issues of crime and immigration. Republicans beat the hell out of Democrats from the 1980's onward with "Democrats are soft on crime!" Reagan and his cronies were doing this back then.

Fucking George H.W. Bush crucified Dukakis on crime with Willie Horton. And Democrats have learned to cower and talk like Republicans on crime. Hell, Bill Clinton threw a whole bunch of young black kids in prison with that 1994 Crime Bill that only NOW some Democrats say was wrong.

Therefore, Jeffries is living in the fucking past and acting like some WWI general. He's proving to be just as bad as Schumer. "Let's keep our message stuck in the 1990's and early 2000's!" ICE is not reformable. Eliminate it and start fresh.

ICE - the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement has 21,800 employees and is in charge of US Customs, gambling enforcement, and excise taxes. Which is why Jeffries and other D electeds say it needs to be reformed. Tearing it all down would create chaos at intn’l airports, and more. 1/

So I think the politically best thing is to demand the most but recognize that the decision will be a messy protracted battle in Congress with Rethugs fighting every step of the way and in the end what gets done will be what gets 60 votes in the Senate. There is no massive Dem donor.

Also any action taken will be by Congress which is a huge unwieldy committee. Actions include fire everyone, have prosecutions, re-allocate the money, write strict regulations, take down walls and save Big Bend, fund the immigration courts, sell the concentration camps, etc. All of this is reform.

that's another whole can of worms because it means changing the law and once again the unwieldy committee of hundreds will have to hammer something out that will be a compromise. I think it is better to keep that separate from re-forming ICE at a different agency.

What does "abolish" mean? I realize that it has more emotional resonance than reform, but the agency has some legal legit functions that have to be done by someone. Taking those legit functions and reassigning them somewhere else is reform and ICE can be dissolved. But it is literally re-formed.

AIPAC tracker will tell you. He takes millions in bribes and is owned by corp dark money. He's intimidated by trump regime and will not work or fight for the people. He's trying to keep the lid on a boiling pot ready to explode!!

Being an equivocating pu##y politician is neither patriotic nor moral when faced with confronting and rectifying the cruelty, greed and debauchery of the Trump administration and the ultrarich oligarchy. Get wise quick or step aside Democrats!

Every ICE agent is either a murdering, raping, child abusing kidnaper; or they are aiding and abetting the same. They are all complicit in the white nationalist, evangelical, nazi pogrom. If they weren't, they would refuse to lower themselves to the base bestiality of Trump and Miller.

Not ALL! We just need to replace ineffectual ones. We have amazing senators like Ossoff, Murphy, Van Hollen, Warren, Sanders, Warnock, Alex Padilla House members like Raskin, Maxwell Frost, Joe Neguse, Madeleine Dean, AOC, Jayapal, Stansbury, Escobar, Robert Garcia, Jason Crow I’m missing several

What about Ossoff and other progressives? They've been basically stymied by the centrists. Imagine if we added more progressives to those already setting up the scene...

We are all responsible for our own representatives. Get involved in your local Democratic politics. The people pick the candidates, work on their campaigns, vote in primaries and vote blue no matter who in Nov. We need more ppl doing their jobs. We create the parties and the gov from the bottom up.

Yup, but guess what? Many here tend not to put in that kind of work/effort😒 They only show up online and make demands Come time to vote, phone bank, knock on doors? Nowhere to be found😔 Marches, polls, comment sections, all low bars Numbers at the ballot box/on the ground That's the bar🥃🥃

ICE was not created after 9/11 to kidnap/detain/deport citizens in America who are not white or who have different accents. As a result, this Miller-Trump version of ICE needs to be abolished. Only if a foreign adversary attacks the US should US require ICE who would go after those terrorist orgs.

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ICE was created after 9/11 with the Homeland Security Act. Before that, immigration was handled by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) which was under the DOJ and was abolished in 2002 after the Department of Homeland Security was created. We need to go back to how things were pre-9/11

So, he wants to keep the mad dogs; but, tell them to behave? Oh, hell no! Once they have taste for blood, you have to get rid of them. 🤬

Dem's didn't forget, so much as they've been bought. Same way as the Repubs, just not as blatantly, and there's only so much they can get way with. We need to give Hakeem a political bloody nose to let him know that we know he's been bought and paid for.

I feel IDF intigrating Ice transparently and I don’t see anything but same coin rolling down the street with HJ I feel those excess concentration camps, including the 24 high security near Western Canada if I remember right maybhave a use it’s always struck me as odd 

What's most galling about this is Jeffries was only weeks ago calling out Zohran Mamdani for taking on other Dems (in NYC primaries). And here Jeffries is taking on other Dems himself (a majority of his caucus on several issues he was asked about).

Are you looking for another political loss? Great, then abolish ICE defund the police, open the border and go after the kulaks. Provide health care as a right and prosecute any Dr who fails to deliver health. Force the wealthy to rags but mark them so that others may see and persecute them openly.

Jeffries is a sellout. He no longer wants Medicare for all. He’s affrais of Republicans calling Dems “Socialists” or “Communists”. So what? Let the failed Pwso protecting Republicans call us any name they want. Dems just need to get the work done.

ICE or no ICE, no one on the left has a viable solution 2 the immigration problem. "No more borders" is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, it'll never come to pass cuz if it did it would be a nightmare 4 any country who tried it. File with Defund Cops, privatize all corps, & ax Thanksgiving.

I remember when Pelosi presented jeffries as the person who could save our country. Turning out to be walking the same path as fetterman.

It’s the ratchet. PACs have been using this strategy for decades. Republicans are straight up criminals. Democrats taking PAC money maintain a constant and steady pressure to special interest like sodomizing the Middle East. They do it by offering milk toast like incremental progress on healthcare.

Either that or he has been threatened . You look other way or we will Give you heart stop moment or stroke Assassin methods make martyrdom to classy for democrats but republicans acting like racists it’s fine to make their cause acceptable Push the cause to make US theocracy goonville. Do or else

No. Just AIPAC. Trump is helping Netanyahu. So they're helping Trump. Jeffries can't come out in support of Trump, and keep his job; so they're telling him to support something Trump wants/needs/is going to use to try to remain in power.

The "moderate" approach to systemic cruelty is always just a slower way of arriving at the same destination. We’re treating a structural glitch like it’s a software bug when the whole OS is designed to crash.

What really unites Democrats is knowing that we have strong leadership to fight the most corrupt govt we have ever had in the US. And Jeffries has proven he is not the leadership we need !!! Abolish ICE and hold these SOB s accountable !!!

Crime was down under Biden because jobs and basic needs were within reach. Republicans intentionally tanking the economy will lead to more crime. When incarcerations were down, private jailers lost money. ICE fills those private prison owners wallets.

AFAIC, for profit prisons are mass violations of civil rights, morally wrong, and breeding grounds for corruption and mass fraud. Plus, not only will the security guard unions protect or hide violence committed on prisoners, the for profit prison itself will cover up those violations. Just say no.

The centrists had their chance and fucked it up. I may not agree with all the DSA folk but they are all together and ready to right the ship during this current shitshow.

Still trying to throw the baby out with the bath water! It’s not going away and until it can reform is the closest we can get right now! Stop doing the all or nothing!