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Counter-point: boiling bagels before their initial bake makes them so much fluffier on the inside

ooh good point! counter-counter-point: they're still bagels

boiling a bagel?! never heard of that

Before doing their first bake, yup! Not pre-made ones

what about pretzels ?? boiling is essential. also is pasta sauce not technically boiled ???

pretzels are a strange exception they're boiled! but they're...tolerable to eat? sometimes even good? what sorcery, what accursed monster, what spooky action at a distance have our modern pretzel chefs raised from the murky depths? we may never know

and no pasta sauce is not boiled. the key characteristic of boiling is that you take food, put it in boiling water, then remove it from the water and eat it critically, thankfully, this does not describe sauces

Another victim of Big Sous Vide.

spoken like someone who's never had a good milk steak