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Greed at the top, of course, but I'm not sure people would be willing or able to pay the prices needed to pay a living wage to both the original staff and the drivers. 🤔 Granted, I don't live in New York. I don't know how people afford to live there in the first place.

NYC also has a minimum wage for these drivers, so they’re not entirely dependent on tips, but tipping is still a significant part of their income (alas). One step at a time. www.nyc.gov/site/dca/wor...

I should have said, “to my knowledge, in Ontario Canada.”

That is indeed the problem, where have you been?

Yeah there's a lot of bigger problems and we are trying to mitigate them at levels we can control.

Change starts with steps against the oligarchy.

Dooh! Take the win. JFC

Yep.

We have to start somewhere. Take back their money first. Then stop the obscene profits billionaires are raking in.

No shit?

Wittgenstein's Vienna or Kakania? I can go either way

Are you under the impression that Uber drivers get to decide what Uber charges you? Do you have any idea how underpaid those drivers are, how desperate you have to be to work for them in the first place?

Everyone in this conversation understands this but until you can achieve systematic change that makes tipping unnecessary, do the right thing and don't moan about it.

I usually agree with making it that way but there are times when your tip and regular experience ARE actually "To Insure Positive Service" (Bartending college slogan that obviously didn't know "insure" vs "ensure")

just tip the damn server

It is the master / slave tradition on which the foundation of the USA is based

Well of course

We are aware. But bandaids ARE a necessity when cleaning wounds. Yes what NYC did was a bandaid. But sometimes you gotta do what you can in the meantime

I drove uber eats for 6 months while in between jobs and I would frequently get delivery requests that would take half an hour and would pay $2 Uber eats allows you to ignore or reject those offers. Doordash doesn't. If your rejection rate falls too low, they won't let you deliver anymore.

And how do we even know fpr sure the workers are actually getting any of the tips? Better to NOT tip if that's the case!

all food services workers, bartenders etc depend on tips it's not new at at least @mayormamdani.bsky.social has the guts to address- too bad not where li live and workers depend on tourists overpaying for lodging tips

Didn't say it was.

Look at how abused servers are in many restaurants? Or hotel housekeepers? The business model is set up so workers are abused.

Base pay is insulting

Yo, how about we focus on the easier wins that help gig workers first.

If you were listening to Ministry then we can do that together. youtu.be/XYYGKCanqfA?...

FFS as a bike courier a regular trip downtown that you guaranteed delivery in about 1 1/2 hours was $2. OF AN ENVELOPE. IN 1988. IN CANADIAN $. Minimum wage was $4 an hour and we paid $400 a month for a nice high rise apartment.

A friend of mine does this, and she said the level of begging they want you to do to go get these "pickups" is ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

Yup

I'm a full time dasher and I decline 99.99% of these. It's insulting that some people find that acceptable.

NYC mandated that drivers for Uber Eats, DoorDash and Instacart be paid $21.44 per hour. This mandate far exceeds the Federal minimum wage which is $7.25 per hour for nonexempt workers, and in New York City the minimum wage is $17.00 per hour.

Doordash is dependent on tips. Delivery people will deliver if the compensation is good enough wherever the fuck the money comes from. Doordash should just charge customers the correct amount for delivery and stop playing fucking games

Welp duh. Not just delivery drivers.

This.

Sort of like how servers and bartenders are dependent on tips...

But they still need them to survive in the current system.

I hope you all don't get as brainwashed as we got ✊

Now I found it to be perfect use of the classic meme thenib.com/mister-gotcha/ It became a book! boingboing.net/2026/06/10/a...