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People will gladly pay 10$ for a coffee they will down in 10min so I think it's a fair price too, but the reality is a lot of indie games don't get played because they "seem too pricey" so it's a double edged blade

If they live in the us, yeah, 15 bucks for a Steam game is low, I dunno amything about your game, but I imagine it's obviously not as simple as pong so 15 bucks is reasonable for the US hah (2/2)

if your game has at least 1-2 hours of entertaining content, $15 is reasonable. That's the price of a movie.

The only reason to give someone a negative review is if you believe the world would be a better place if they weren't doing that job. I dont care if they're an Uber driver or a game dev. (this begins to fall apart at larger organizations, but for small game devs, it absolutely applies)

I dunno man I tolerate y’all pretty well. So maybe you can extend that same courtesy to people who ARE concerned with getting value for their money? Or, like others in this thread, you can call us broke. That’ll work too.

Depends on the goal of the restaurant. Are the margins high so that even a couple of steaks sold keeps the lights on, or are the margins low so that word of mouth spreads quickly about how good of a deal the steak is and more people come to your restaurant, making money on the volume of sales?

You are speaking as if there isn't a huge spectrum of how good, how big a portion and how expensive JUST A STEAK can be. You can find examples all over the place. Some steaks are overpriced, some are a bargain... the only way to know is trying or hearing from someone you trust who has tried.

They are people for whom time is something to be filled and spent and passed. Their life experience and expectations are so completely alien from those of people who do not have enough time to in their lives to do the things they enjoy.

"paid less than 20 for a game that i liked but i thought it was war and peace lenght 0/10"

Added it to my wishlist! I love the idea

Bud 15 bucks is a steal. Why do they allow children in Steam?

Well creative works wouldn't cost all that much if we didn't live in the very hellscape created by that attitude.

It’s the dev themselves! Completely agree that that review is framed sensationally, even for a “value-maximiser”. Also, less than 10% of your reviews mention the price and out of those that were in some way critical of the price, 70+% were positive overall anyways so don’t get hung up on one voice.

Appreciating art of any kind is subjective; it gets more complicated when money is brought into the discussion. Very little is 'worth' what it costs IMO, but I also recognise that that's a me thing and not necessarily other people's values. Helps to remember that 'opinions are like assholes' adage.

Lol. Ppl huh… 10000000 of hours not even worth 15 bucks.

i think it should be stressed that the only reason you are correct is because your game otherwise has 90% positive reviews. because every dollar *does* need to be justified by the product.

100% that which came to mind.. fecking had to by a dlc for me3 to get anything interesting, then they f'ed the ending and rebundled it stripping out the multiplayer and people still bought the 'upgraded' package 🤦 DA no better, didnt buy veilguard and andromedia I returned using the guarntee 2 buggy

or releasing an 'updated' skin , bundling the series, stripping the multiplayer and calling it premium and selling for 80 plus! ea/mass effect is one that comes to mind.. as if they didnt destroy it with the crap dlcs for a working story+'gear' in loot boxes...

I usually buy it on sale, and if I love the game I buy it again on multiple platforms and/or gift them. 😅

I hate "gamers". Just constant entitlement and negativity.

15 dollars is nothing for a game nowadays. And I for once would never think twice before supporting a game I like in that price category. And if you can't afford it, that's alright ofc. But don't blame that on such an affordable game. Save up and one day you can.

same person would have no problem to shell out 50 for an dlc for an unfinished ea/bioware ending

Costs so much?! 😂 Wtf

Honestly I would rather pay indie devs $80 for a fun interesting game than the 400th interation of the same game from the big companies.

price is subjective but this probably shifted the views a bit on whats worth the price

they probably hadnt considered its priced at $15 so the dev(s) could feed their dang family,,, not because its hollow knight length

Imagine paying 40 dollars for a broken and buggy collection of retro sonic games after Sega delisted the mega drive classics and then 15$ is "too high"

Considering the price of a cinema visit nowadays I don't see the issue of a game costing 15 bucks. I understand why some Devs set their games for cheap but at the same time I fear how it affects the expectations of others. I saw too many "Hollow Knight costs 20. Why can't this game?" arguments.

There's always one or two of those out there. Ignore and carry on like a pro.

Example definition of gamer. Entitled, whiny, egotistical, dumb.

Yeah, dude! I know an indie dev can't waste 10 hours of game time on cinematic CGI cut scenes, like FF Remake, but at least give me 20 hours of walking between my small bursts of combat and story!

$15 pretty much is the bottom

15 dollars is now the price of a fucking supermarket salad, or 3 coffees. Fucking absurd complaint. "I wouldnt pay 3 coffees for this"

RIP WILLIAM DAVIS

Lol! Yep I'll just take another year or two to make it longer! It's an hour or more point and click funny game that people enjoyed the one evening laugh-a-thon. I think it was £7.99 at the time of that review, which also allowed plenty of room for gradual discounts when on sale.

FOUR TO FIVE TIMES. Yeah to charge this price just do 500% more work. EASY.

Feels super meta, given the game in question

Clearly the solution here is to trap them with an achievement that takes 6,000+ hours to unlock like TerraTech Legion. Let's see them complain about "substance" then! (Before anyone comes for me, yes, I am joking.)

I've said it once and I'll say it again! The AAA industry's practices of dev burnout into games that are essentially money furnaces have irreversibly ruined the normie gamer's mindset towards games' true worth. And that makes me sad

right? 80 hrs in a wasteland doing the same xp rub and waiting 2-3 years for a patch so you can complete a quest from a big dev is in no way fun

Literally one of the comments I got was about how a 30 minute video essay is free. Brother, ABC gum is free, I’m still not chewing it. I’ll buy a stick myself.

20 dollars for a Fortnite skin is fine, but 15 dollars for an indie game is out of the budget it seems.

these ppl have no idea how the world works or how much effort is put into creating something.

I would think that the substance of a game is being pretty fun. Achieving that is not trivial.

Said by people who have, almost certainly, never gone through the process of creating something themselves.

Person who played the game for an hour: "That's enough to form a well thought out review and criticism..."

Raise the price.

I always say that user-based reviews mean absolutely nothing. It's because of people like the person shown in this screenshot that I have formed this opinion. The only reviews that matter to me are those by actual critics or my own opinions. That being said, I'm now interested in your game :)

So the game is fun, just not $15 fun. I suspect the “right” price for him is free.

Dont take it seriously, that person is most likely a troll, dont let that effect you

Honestly, my games being cheap doesn't make them sell more anyway

15 is a steal. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, AN IGN REVIEWER? Oh wait, that makes sense. Because I bet you they didnt finish the game. *insert wheeze emoji*

Okay. So I'm guessing they completed the game in the hour to two of the review? Would like to know before saying anything more rather than inferring anything.

see how little you charge

See this is why I couldn't be an indie dev. If I got a rating like this I would update my game to explicitly block their IP and username

All the people arguing about content and length of a game for the price don't seem to realize that you're paying for the effort that goes into making an entire game, not the product of that effort. If you want devs to be able to make games, you have to pay them to be able to make them.

I for one have never complained when I see an indie game priced at 20$-40$ instead of the usual 5$-10$. Sadly I'm also a cheapass who only ever buys games on sale. Gamers need to get over the indie stigma and remember devs have bills to pay to make the damn game.

I paid $5 for poppy playground and beat it in 10 minutes. That shit pissed me off!! Just saying

I chose to pass the difference from platforms to players, so I get roughly the same on both, and it makes the game cheaper for you on itch 😅

When you spend more than $15 to see a movie these days that at best is only three hours of fun, that seems like a good deal to me

regional pricing rocks. it helped a lot of devs get visibility in Latin America and Asian countries.

I received a negative review about my game being *free* 🤔 Once you realize it's just one person with a keyboard, it becomes a lot easier to stay focused on your own priorities.