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Now they just have to do it , and enforce it!

I mean, is it? They’ve all still been deported with no consequences for the admin for their actions.

So, next time?

Just saw you on The Last Word. Thanks for clarifying, I feel better now!

It’s only that if it’s substantive. It’s an invitation to litigate right to counsel, def of timely/reasonable notice, if mandated in native language. We won’t know how many are disappeared because of a language barrier. It’s only a right if you understand it. Add a pocket habeas to the papers packet

The Founding Fathers saw a guy like Donnie coming a long, long time ago.

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How much would it cost a person to hire an attorney to file a writ of habeas corpus if they are illegally detained by ICE? Would they even be afforded the opportunity to have an attorney? I mean, folks are being rounded up and denied civil rights right now.

I read it this way too but on the practicality point everyone is making re filing habeas from detention, what’s the response? To my mind they are still possibly going to order that the person deported in the 4th cir case in error be brought back to the us, but what about the practical q?

Translation please? 🤔🇺🇸

But the Supreme Court is fine with the enemies act. Is one ruling contradicting the other?

And in all transparency, I am not a lawyer, but I I think this is right…

So going forward, the SCOTUS unanimously declared that the administration has to do this. What they did not do is allow the order of the lower court ruling that demanded they get the wrongly deported man back to the US immediately was valid and said he needed to get this filed in the proper court

So within the stay, there were two decisions. One decision was unanimous that said you absolutely have to give people the right to contest before you ship them off. The other decision which was 5-4 said that the person in question has to file their habeas corpus petition to the correct court

I'm not a legal mind, but I'm HIGHLY doubtful it will play out in any substantively different way than it has already.

Thank you for helping us non-lawyers understand.

Yeah, well that is def a positive spin and I wish I felt that good. But it’s a bit of a fig leaf of due process if you have no money and 30 minutes to find a lawyer while waiting in TX detention before you are whisked away to ES. At best you then finally get to argue habeas before 5Cir. No bueno.

What about the other 199 who did not get due process? They should also be returned! He knowingly and deliberately violated the judge’s order when they were deported! I haveSO many letters to write to my legislators; I’m making a list of topics.

Will those imprisoned get hearings, then?

I enjoy your podcast and your detailed analysis and explanation.

True, but the dissenting justices raise a lot of important/scary concerns.

Who enforces this? How does it correct those who did not get due process? What happens if they ignore it going forward?

What if one of the "deportees" is someone who knows too much about Donald et al, and the "group of terrorists" is a smokescreen ,

Of course, I'm not sure how helpful Texas judges will be for the Venezuelans. Texas judges have been a real problem for the rest of the country's freedoms but better than nothing.

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Supreme Court allows Trump to enforce Alien Enemies Act for rapid deportations for now www.cnn.com/2025/04/07/p...

Supreme Court Clears Way for Venezuelan Deportations to Resume, for Now www.nytimes.com/2025/04/07/u...

Supreme Court gives boost to Trump administration's deportation plans under Alien Enemies Act www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...

And the removal to Texas? Am I too cynical thinking that this is a way to remove it from Judge Boasberg? Or not cynical enough?

Apparently TX is where the Venezuelans were sent so I think the statement was that they can't drag them back to DC or elsewhere for a court hearing. But yeah, I think putting a texas judge in charge is next to nothing helpful.

If they have time and access to legal resources. We need an Underground Railroad Network of resources for these people. You have a huge network. I am guessing it includes many retired attorneys who would help. Who could lead this?

Who are these men in the black masks? Are they US law enforcement? And why the mask?

midas touch just covered it

That is uncharacteristically optimistic of you. I read it as a laughing scolding. Now make sure you give them some due process, you silly goose! What happens when they give a 30-minute heads up?

Thank you Andrew . Not the doom and gloom story people are making it out to be .

I hope this will prevent them from playing a shell game with these people but I am not optimistic.

What does this mean for the people who were denied due process and are in a prison in El Salvador?

Yeah, I’m not sure I get all the dooming. That’s the most critical decision that needed to be made, that much at least was decided correctly, and this imposes precisely the sort of slowdown and scrutiny that the invocation of the AEA was meant to avoid.

The Red Court should just issue these opinions in Russian. americans can’t read, anyway.

True, but at the 5th Circuit? Ugh.

Now, talk to us about the implications for those illegally deported and imprisoned. Why can’t they be returned for processing?

Thank you for pointing this out

2 questions: - Is SCOTUS allowing deportations to El Salvador if the deportees are not citizens of that country? - SCOTUS says challenges must be filed in jurisdiction where deportee is being held. What about transporting the deportee to a favorable venue? Often frowned upon by federal courts.

So why can’t the badges that renditioned people off the streets be charged (State charges) with kidnapping and denying due process? Obviously, the badges didn’t have the proper paperwork either.

If I've understood this, a further point is that the decision mandates publicity and documentation in every case. If the Court had merely said "This isn't allowed" (as some hoped it would), the administration could just have ignored that and everything would have stayed the same.

But what were all the other things they airbrushed?

DOJ: The President is a god king who gets to kidnap innocent people and send them to 3rd world concentration camps. SCOTUS: We decline to adopt the President's argument that he is a god king. However, the kidnappings are fine. Media: Split decision today Rinse, repeat

No, it's not. Ugh

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Correct, they can not just put people on airplanes and send them to foreign prisions. That is kidnapping! But all the magatards are celebrating on X, they think the airplanes will start to take people to foreign prisions again, without a procees. When did America became this ignorant and evil?

Are we at war with Venezuela?

This is good! But why did Roberts swing the other way?

So everyone that has been sent to El Salvador has had their due process violated and need to be returned to the US. As usual the #CorruptSCOTUS gives Trump and the #Repussycans room to wiggle out.

Ok. But stayed order to bring Garcia back was acquiescence to Trump. The rule of law is still gone. The poor men in El Salvador will likely never be brought back.

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I wouldn't describe it as a total defeat. It was the least they could do if they want to continue pretending to be an equal branch of government that cares about the Constitution.

Never Forget. Our Government is Of the People, By the People, FOR the People. All. Our People. Clearly. Blowing up Congress phones is Not Enough Scotus: www.supremecourt.gov/contact/cont... & the entire Federal Judicial Branch. Please. Let them know.

There are also 250+ humans sitting in a prison in El Salvador that were not afforded due process.

No different than another country in Texas

I just can't take any more of these "bright side of fascism" hot-takes.

Exactly. Sending them to a maga Kangaroo Court is NOT due process.

Just as the admin was about to send 2 more plane loads of “immigrants” to Libya, J. Boasman held them in criminal contempt & ordered the El Salvador prisoners back by next Wed. or face the music!

When will the day come when you explain this? I assume you wanted to indict but Mueller said no? The public deserves answers at this point. Vladimir Putin is literally ruining America through Trump.

Thank you for sharing a glimmer of hope.

When their heads are on stakes. Justice.

I would love to think our elected officials would have the spines to do what Germany did after WWII. I'm not holding my breath. It might interfere with their beloved "decorum". Hell they didn't have the guts to put Trump in prison where he belongs.

forced labor camps for dissenters?

They’re acting like they’re not going to have to 🤷🏻‍♂️

What good does that do if you’re already in El Salvador or elsewhere?What will stop them from doing it again and saying “sorry can’t get them back”? How do you demand a hearing from El Salvador?

Optimistic. Not in the jx from which they were seized, but where they are held?? In other words, the most loony conservative jx in the country. And when the gov't is moving them around to avoid accountability? What then? Is there even time for habeus corpus before they're shipped out of the country?

But as a practical matter, even if they give proper notice and a chance to contest their removal, how many are able to in a meaningful way? How many have lawyers? How many will be given notice in their own language?

But is it ok for us to send immigrants to torture prisons in other countries for ANY reason?? And we’re paying $6 million??? Of course we can get them back. Why aren’t we bringing them all back?!?

Just watched you on The Last Word tonight. Just like you, I can't believe the cruelty that is happening with this administration! I'm hoping the supreme court is going to rule against the administration that due process must be afforded to people that the administration wants to deport.

Ok I feel a little better. But not until the innocent are given due process and back with their families.

Your explanation regarding SCOTUS on Last Word was very helpful ~ thx!

So why did the SJC overturn the stay? Countering both the 4th Ammendment : unreasonable search & seizure & 5th Ammendment : due process. What happened to Chief Justice John Robert's statement defending Judges, the courts & the rule of law?

A pre-deprivation hearing is only required *if* they can file habeas in time. Since people in immigration detention have no constitutional right to counsel, how many will actually be able to?

Wait. I'm confused. I am seeing posts that say that the decision was 5-4 (with Barrett dissenting with the liberal justices). So much news that it is overwhelming and now I don't know which end is up.

Justice Sotomayor with a bone-chilling dissent today: “The implication of the govt’s position is noncitizens AND US citizens could be taken off streets, forced onto planes, confined to foreign prisons with no opportunity for redress…This Nation's laws is designed to prevent, not en-able, their rise.

These people were here, legally or not, working jobs, paying taxes, and now SCOTUS says it's fine to pay a third world shithole $20,000 a head annually to lock them up in a gulag. And you think this was a victory for due process? Leave your credibility at the door and get the fuck out.

Not really the W you think it is. Those already removed may not get a Habeas hearing, Most hearings held in 5th circuit (strongly pro-trump) and each habeas case held individually, for each person, every time. No relief for a class of victims. www.stevevladeck.com/p/140-the-di...

Enough already. Rise up and fight back. bsky.app/profile/gopj...

Justice Jackson's dissent was 🔥

It is not good. Post put an optimist spin on it.

www.reddit.com/r/Whistleblo... Explain that to these people. Look at what they’re doing.

Thank-you! Sure wish Corporate News would... Immigrants are most certainly due their due process rights as America Citizens (and human beings) - thank you!

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Am I mistaken that they also said it must be a hearing in front of a TEXAS judge? Nothing in DC. judge-shopping in corrupt Texas is an easy out.

I'm confused. Explain the dissent.

Yet we all know why these trials have to be in Texas...

Thank you for your encouraging take on the ruling tonite. You talked me off the ledge. Take care and blessings.

Does this mean ALL men sent to El Salvador must come back? Not just Garcia? He’s different, I understand but none of them received due process

A hearing in El Salvador is not a hearing in the venue they were seized. Anything less is not true justice.

Care to restate, Counsellor?

Is this a felony or at least a high crime, ie violating the US CONSTITUTION?

But won't they conduct the pre-deprivation hearings by administrative judges compliant enough to avoid being sacked by Trump, with habeas petitions going to district court judges in Texas overseen by the Fifth Circuit, also compliant with Trump? How much dues process comes from this?