David Porter

David Porter

@dcporter.bsky.social

Qing historian, résidant à Montréal

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Coming up this Wednesday! Sam Bass at McGill to speak about "Slavery and Dependency in Qing Mongolia, 1760-1850"

David Porter@dcporter.bsky.social

The next talk in our series on Frontiers of Late Imperial China is coming up on October 28. Sam Bass of the University of Toronto will be speaking on "Slavery an Dependency in Qing Mongolia, 1760-1850" at 4:00 PM in the McIntyre Medical Building (room 210/211) at McGill

The next talk in our series on Frontiers of Late Imperial China is coming up on October 28. Sam Bass of the University of Toronto will be speaking on "Slavery an Dependency in Qing Mongolia, 1760-1850" at 4:00 PM in the McIntyre Medical Building (room 210/211) at McGill

This is indeed just like Arday. A depressing story of people refusing to see obvious misconduct because for some reason they think upholding basic standards of integrity is racist

Karen Attiah@karenattiah.bsky.social

Giving echoes of the British media's pile-on of Jason Arday, African writers are noticing how the BBC (which didn't cover the original announcement of this year's award) is now covering the AI "scandal".

Final reminder that this exciting talk by George Qiao previewing his forthcoming book (coming out early next year, I believe) is coming up on Friday - it's open to all (as long as you can make it in person)

David Porter@dcporter.bsky.social

On Friday, October 2nd, we'll be hosting George Qiao of Amherst College for a talk at McGill titled "The Business of Empire: How Frontier Trade Remade China in the Early Modern Era." It will be 3:30 - 5:00 PM in Arts 260 (on the main campus of McGill)

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Excited to be working with Norton on two new histories of Japan! I have my work cut out for me for approximately the next decade!!

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We’ve got an Ivy League provost over here who can’t use his own brain to write an OpEd, he needs ChatGPT to help him with his sentences and thoughts. He needs the bot to write emails clearly. I’m so disgusted and also laughing so hard somehow

Jeff Sharlet@jeffsharlet.bsky.social

The provost of Dartmouth, at which I teach, has been using AI to write both academic papers & national op-eds, according to brave reporting by @thedartmouth.bsky.social. Many students are already bitter about AI. This leaves us as faculty no ground to stand on. www.thedartmouth.com/article/2026...

I've got no particular interest in defending JKR who is a horrible person, but as a linguistic matter, I think Cho Chang is fairly justifiable as a somewhat irregular romanization (and note that lots of name romanizations of diaspora Chinese are irregular!) of a name like Zhang Zhou/Zhao/Qiu

Last Will and Testament Moss@williammoss.bsky.social

Famously, Great Britain had no exposure to China or Chinese people prior to the 1990s.

Continuing in the same vein, how about next he makes a free trade deal with Canada and Mexico that eliminates all the tariffs that are strangling the North American economy?

Aaron Rupar@atrupar.com

Trump: "We will immediately begin the process of developing a large Military presence in the appropriate part of Greenland, of which there are many"

On Friday, October 2nd, we'll be hosting George Qiao of Amherst College for a talk at McGill titled "The Business of Empire: How Frontier Trade Remade China in the Early Modern Era." It will be 3:30 - 5:00 PM in Arts 260 (on the main campus of McGill)

This is the first talk in our yearlong SSHRC-sponsored series on Frontiers of Late Imperial China. Stay tuned for future talks by Samuel Bass, Sixiang Wang, Sarah Bramo-Ramos, Lan Wu, Lili Xia, and Jaymin Kim

The funny thing about the Qing specifically is that the stuff that everyone thinks about as emblematic Qing imperialism (Dzungar wars, conquest of Xinjiang) was not particularly tied to bigotry - the Dzungar genocide was brutal but also seems to have been a spur of the moment decision by Qianlong

"Online Rent-a-Sage" Bret Devereaux@bretdevereaux.bsky.social

Because I'm feeling punchy tonight - the primary thing that distinguishes white supremacy from other forms of xenophobia and bigotry used to justify imperial brutality is simply that it was the bigotry to hand for the most powerful countries at the moment the world happened to globalize.

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Where the Qing did have a great deal of ethnic prejudice was in places like Yunnan, Guizhou, Taiwan, etc, where indigenous groups were absolutely viewed as savages and there were extensive efforts at replacing them (via settler colonialism) and "civilizing" them

And the kinds of ways in which they were represented in imperial cultural production would have made any European imperialist proud (google "Miao albums" if you want a taste)

The funny thing about the Qing specifically is that the stuff that everyone thinks about as emblematic Qing imperialism (Dzungar wars, conquest of Xinjiang) was not particularly tied to bigotry - the Dzungar genocide was brutal but also seems to have been a spur of the moment decision by Qianlong

"Online Rent-a-Sage" Bret Devereaux@bretdevereaux.bsky.social

Because I'm feeling punchy tonight - the primary thing that distinguishes white supremacy from other forms of xenophobia and bigotry used to justify imperial brutality is simply that it was the bigotry to hand for the most powerful countries at the moment the world happened to globalize.

In general, the Qing rulers had pretty positive attitudes toward Mongols, who themselves made up a substantial portion of the imperial elite - the Dzungars were wiped out not because of anti-Mongol (or even anti-Oirat) prejudice but because they were Mongols who wouldn't submit

I certainly agree that most English speakers don't read it, but there's actually quite a lot of very excellent Qing history written in English - plenty to get a sense of how the empire worked!

Drew Gibson@drewgibson.bsky.social

I tend to think a significant source of this kind of thinking is that sources on, say, Qing history in Western languages are just so much less readily available compared to Western early modern accounts that it becomes an issue of comparing Western history with non-Western theory instead.

In the interests of considering valuable humanistic uses of LLMs - I was just able to use Claude to identify the Chinese source of several Manchu-language stories of the strange (that were translated/adapted/elaborated from that Chinese source)

The AI made some mistakes along the way - it at one point invented a whole set of fake correspondences with a different collection. But I would probably never have found these matches without it (indeed I didn't when I first worked with these Manchu texts a decade ago)

Anyway, I'm pretty excited about this and think that the kind of search and translation abilities that were important to figuring this out are ones that are genuinely helpful to humanistic research and it's worth distinguishing them from, say, using AI to write your papers

Probably underrated how many Americans are just mad that Trump is ruining the HOMES acronym they learned as a kid for the Great Lakes

Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchamp.bsky.social

The Lake Ontario name change is insanely unpopular: just 14 percent support it. By point of comparison, 14 percent of Americans also believe that the moon landing was fake.

This is true from a linguistics perspective, of course, but from a socio-political perspective "Chinese language" is an extremely important concept, and really can't be done away with

Thomas Batchelor@tobbinatorscw.bsky.social

We really need to retire the term "Chinese language", something that refers to many separate languages but at the same time just one, and that just one changes every so often

This is true. I think the nuance in the Cofnas case as currently playing out is that firing you in this hypothetical is a decision that should be made by biologists, not by the university administration unilaterally

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This is not because Cofnas personally is a victim deserving of special protection but because the procedures that exist for firing people need to be capable of distinguishing between racist cranks doing work of no scholarly merit [con't]

This is true. I think the nuance in the Cofnas case as currently playing out is that firing you in this hypothetical is a decision that should be made by biologists, not by the university administration unilaterally

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Cofnas has no business being employed by a university, but disciplinary standards need to be enforced by scholars in the discipline, not by university bureaucrats just trying to avoid political problems/bad press

The terrifying thing about "race realist" "scholarship" is that I'm pretty sure this is actually an effort to refute an even more extreme anti-Semitic conspiracy theory

Adam Rutherford@adamrutherford.bsky.social

I had not some across this before, but if you want an example Nathan Cofnas’ scholarship, this is a doozy. Again I say, being sacked is not the problem; being recruited in the first place is what deserves scrutiny.

For anyone in the Montreal area: here's the preliminary schedule for the lecture series on Frontiers of Late Imperial China that I've put together for the upcoming academic year.

In addition, we are hosting a series of lunchtime workshops (lunch provided) for grad students focused on methods/approaches for the study of empires and frontiers, with each of our speakers participating. If you want more information about these, please write to me!

My triumph of the day was discovering a downloadable English-subtitled version of 五朵金花 so I can assign it to my Borderlands of Modern China class again after it disappeared from Youtube a few years back (literally days before my students were supposed to watch it)

This may or may not be true as framed, but it's a bit misleading. As any professor who has taught at a top school can tell you, there are substantial differences in student ability even among those already admitted.

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There is, however, a real question about the ability of admissions offices to identify those differences successfully. That is, I'm sure there are a lot of students who don't get admitted to say, Harvard, who would be more academically successful than many of those who are admitted

But it's just not true that everyone admitted to the best universities is a great student. And it's not even just because of the athletes/legacies (though the worst students I TA-ed at Harvard were indeed athletes)

How the majority of academics on this site seem to have brainwashed themselves into "Arday didn't plagiarize" continues to baffle me.

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This is not acceptable or normal academic practice and nobody who did it deserves an academic job. (And yes, Cambridge should fire William O'Reilly too - whose case is in some ways worse because he stole from his own student!)

How the majority of academics on this site seem to have brainwashed themselves into "Arday didn't plagiarize" continues to baffle me.

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People are acting like this is the Claudine Gay case (descriptions of specific statistical methods look a lot like other people's descriptions of the same methods). No, Arday took thousands of words from a single other person's work without quotation marks or even footnotes/citations

Yes, and also it's bad for the field of history in general because Great Books curricula reject many of the basic premises of how historians approach the past (not saying "Great Books" have no value, just that if that's all the humanities is, a lot is lost)

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A handful of (very short) pop reading quizzes over the course of the term: a good way to encourage and reward students spending time actually reading what I assign (especially in the age of AI) or just a way to piss them off and fuck up my enrolment/evals in the year before I go up for tenure?