Pat Savage

Pat Savage

@patrickesavage.bsky.social

Author: Comparative Musicology (academic.oup.com/book/62353; open access) Director: @compmusiclab.bsky.social Host/PI @manyvoices.bsky.social Rutherford Discovery Fellow @U Auckland Assoc. Prof. @Keio U Music, evolution, diversity He/him Tangata tiriti

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In case you'd like to hear something great, overheard two students, one says in response to the other one discussing challenges with their combination of courses: "That's fire though, you're getting a full on liberal education bro"

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As I've said before, it's only once I became a professor that I realized the entmoot, a meeting that goes on for three days and three nights, was a professor's joke about faculty meetings.

Kieran Healy@kjhealy.co

The Lord of the Rings is essentially a series of faculty meetings broken up by several long walks in the countryside.

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Hear me out. AI-written articles go to journals for AI-writing edited by AI and get AI-written peer review. Human written articles go to human-edited journals and get human peer review. Let the market decide which journals beings with attention spans and money want to invest in.

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The first genuinely honest ad for generative AI I've ever seen, from Microsoft / CoPilot A mediocre white guy sees his non-white colleague getting praised for good work, he asks AI to *literally copy it*, and then he gets all the praise instead: www.ispot.tv/ad/SoDi/micr...

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If you like that (you should), then check this out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe1R...

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When Grammy-winning musician Rhiannon Giddens begins playing “Old Corn Liquor,” a traditional Black American folk tune, acclaimed Chinese pipa virtuoso Wu Man recognizes similarities to Chinese pentatonic music and spontaneously joins in. The joy on their faces says it all.

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The Vanderbilt Report data do not remotely support their conclusions of "deterioration in scholarly standards" in the humanities, and should be corrected or retracted. (My updated preprint now reflects analysis of data from belatedly published Vanderbilt sub-reports: doi.org/10.31234/osf...)

I'm considering adapting this response for a coauthored publication. If you are (or know of) an anthropologist, sociologist, historian, literary scholar, or philosopher interested in joining me (a musicologist) on such a collaboration, please get in touch!

Pat Savage@patrickesavage.bsky.social

The Vanderbilt Report data do not remotely support their conclusions of "deterioration in scholarly standards" in the humanities, and should be corrected or retracted. (My updated preprint now reflects analysis of data from belatedly published Vanderbilt sub-reports: doi.org/10.31234/osf...)

The Vanderbilt Report data do not remotely support their conclusions of "deterioration in scholarly standards" in the humanities, and should be corrected or retracted. (My updated preprint now reflects analysis of data from belatedly published Vanderbilt sub-reports: doi.org/10.31234/osf...)

I'm considering adapting this response for a coauthored publication. If you are (or know of) an anthropologist, sociologist, historian, literary scholar, or philosopher interested in joining me (a musicologist) on such a collaboration, please get in touch!

OSF has been practically useable a lot recently. I know they're winding down OSF research project storage, but this is even happening with their PsyArXiv preprint hosting, which is not supposed to be affected. Any one have an idea of what's going on and if it is supposed to improve?

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Replying to @patrickesavage.bsky.social

(I see everyone settled on the same smugly alliterative allusion to "time-tested tools" that I did Because we all know that scholarship should never introduce any new analytic or critical methods I'm going to gently suggest that the report was itself authored by some time-tested tools lol)

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This report is very much as Pat Savage describes. Utter garbage The mere deviation from traditional repertories and methodologies is given as evidence of a decline in quality, made explicit (despite their protestations to the contrary) in their description of a "shift" from "center to periphery"

Pat Savage@patrickesavage.bsky.social

Vanderbilt sub-report on Music Studies is out. TLDR: it is utter garbage. The long-awaited evidence of our “deterioration in scholarly standards” is...: "the shift from...central areas of music scholarship [Western art music] to the more peripheral areas". www.vanderbilt.edu/principles/s...

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Ok I read this and I know I am sort of in the Well He Would Say That Wouldn't He category, but I agree with Pat Savage here that this report was *remarkably* bad. Like actually to the point that at times its hard to work out what the complaint is or how one is meant to infer anything from it.

Pat Savage@patrickesavage.bsky.social

Vanderbilt sub-report on Music Studies is out. TLDR: it is utter garbage. The long-awaited evidence of our “deterioration in scholarly standards” is...: "the shift from...central areas of music scholarship [Western art music] to the more peripheral areas". www.vanderbilt.edu/principles/s...

Another enraging thing about this "report" is it claims to represent all of music studies (including ethnomusicology/comparative musicology, which has been devoted to the study of non-Western music for over 140 years), but it's data exclude ethno and focus almost exclusively on music theory

Pat Savage@patrickesavage.bsky.social

Vanderbilt sub-report on Music Studies is out. TLDR: it is utter garbage. The long-awaited evidence of our “deterioration in scholarly standards” is...: "the shift from...central areas of music scholarship [Western art music] to the more peripheral areas". www.vanderbilt.edu/principles/s...

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I'm gobsmacked at this passage. There is no "data" on cancel culture, it is seven anecdotes, and those anecdotes do not "show" this! You need an argument!

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Replying to @rmcelreath.bsky.social

Correct. Increase in the study of any music that is not "Baroque, eighteenth- and nineteenth-century common-practice period, and modernist European (Western) canon" represents, by their methods, a decrease in scholarly standards. It's so bad, it's beyond parody.

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This is the most elitist and racist way of measuring "scholarly standards" I've ever seen! They literally just defined "central areas" by ChatGPT classifications as "Western art music"! Plus some predictable whining about anecdotes of "cancel culture" (e.g., Schenker, Brown's open letter on racism).

“Releasing over 700 files at once is not a demonstration of scholarship, but a demonstration of power.”

The Association for Human Mathematics (AHM) statement on OpenAI’s October 6 release of mathematical documents just dropped! www.ahmath.org/statements

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It was a high bar to clear, but I think this is the worst Vanderbilt sub-report yet! And I feel especially confident in my assessment here because - unlike the report's main author - I'm actually a PhD-carrying, publishing musicologist.

This is the most elitist and racist way of measuring "scholarly standards" I've ever seen! They literally just defined "central areas" by ChatGPT classifications as "Western art music"! Plus some predictable whining about anecdotes of "cancel culture" (e.g., Schenker, Brown's open letter on racism).

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Remember folks, human peer review guarantees that at least 3-4 humans will read your paper!

Pat Savage@patrickesavage.bsky.social

This is good, but I think missing a crucial point: the goal of peer review is not just to publish the most accurate and novel papers possible. It also has a social function: reviewers are part of the process of creating and transmitting knowledge to other humans. www.science.org/content/arti...

This is good, but I think missing a crucial point: the goal of peer review is not just to publish the most accurate and novel papers possible. It also has a social function: reviewers are part of the process of creating and transmitting knowledge to other humans. www.science.org/content/arti...

science.orgCan AI help solve the peer-review crisis? Here are its promises and pitfallsAmid a shortage of human reviewers, tests indicate AI can assist—but is not a savior

One reason I'm so upset about Henrich's report is that anthropology is THE main example used to justify the Vanderbilt report's wild claims of "deterioration in scholarly standards" throughout the humanities (see osf.io/ta6kg). And it turns out to be almost completely unfounded. What a travesty.

Pat Savage@patrickesavage.bsky.social

I've now read the full key sub-report on anthropology by Joe Henrich on which the Vanderbilt report's most explosive conclusions were based (the sub-report was just published, >3 months late). As I expected, it does not provide evidence of a "deterioration in scholarly standards" in the humanities.