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Concurrent players on anything that isn't reliant on a consistent and active playerbase isn't worth considering because even the greatest single player games will have a fall off in that same timeframe as people... idk finish this one and move on to play other games.

Yeah it's just absurd. I've seen people who say that having 5k CCU on launch day is a failure lol. But they ignore that the game sold like 50k units lol. Oh yeah big "failure" lol.

I miss the days when concurrent player numbers wasn’t even part of the discussion. What a shallow way to measure a game.

Letting every Gamer see themselves as an armchair industry analyst was a mistake

This is never a genuine argument. If you only measure games by their player count then every high profile single player game ever is a failure since they fall off about 6 weeks after launch.

The only games I follow that closely tend to be the ones that have a long, winding drama/intrigue attached to it. The kind where long lasting lessons are learned (hopefully). Like The Day Before, Anthem, Highguard and such.

That whole feeling sucks, because nothing can just exist and find its small audience. Feels like current culture is forcing everything to be in the spotlight AND appeal to everyone, and if it doesn’t it’s just torched by people who barely touch it.

People really need to stop worrying about "is gud???". Its warped people's perceptions and caused them to immediately dismiss anything that isn't seeing universal acclaim. And its annoying.

could be a steam sale and added to a backlog of unplayed games

Those people are just telling you who they are. They don't look for the games they like, they work to play the games they perceive as popular.

I once saw some dunderheads on steam saying that a game failed cuz it only had a little bit of numbers on steam. During a Wednesday morning release when everyone is at work or sleeping. Swear they are just desperate sometimes to declare something a failure.

It's an outrage economy, it drives the algorithms, things can only be the best or worst things ever nowadays. Social media is societal poison.

I don't understand why so many people these days seem to want every game to be a "Forever" game.

I think it’s not about “Stardew Valley or bust”, it’s more about the “content” mentality. There are so many game live-services, unfinished games, battlepasses etc, and all coming from industry giants - people just learned to expect the game to go forever. Remember how it was with “Peak”

Typical social media warped perspective. People can't comprehend individual experiences anymore and base everything on views and concurrent players

It's like when people started calling Dead Cells a "dead game" after the final free DLC came out and the devs said no more updates; like, it's a single player game, they're not taking away your license to play it??? That's how all games worked in the analog days lol, what you bought was what you got

Some of the most successful IPs to ever exist have been permanently shelved but locked behind copywriter and IP law due to one or two instalments doing just as well or slightly worse than predecessors. Entire studios shuttered forever because investors couldn't buy 27 yachts each after a release.

People straight up compare single player game retention to multiplayer game retention with a straight face. It’s fucking WEIRD. “No shit single player adventure game that sold 4 million copies doesn’t have as many peak concurrent a month after launch as Fortnite.”

I stopped interacting with the gaming community at large ages ago. Brain worms so advanced they're flying around in people's heads with hover cars like the Jetsons.

This also meant that their game was a "failure" and it meant firing people because of it. Riot didn't even try to give that game a chance. The brain rot is spreading.

You have to ask yourself what they’re used to as their bar of normalcy. League has like, 100M players online monthly or something ludicrous like that. Valorant has around 20M players a month or so. I think they thought the League IP would make 2XKO pop off in a similar fashion. Why? idk.

At this point I'm not sure. I know it was in development for years as well.

I wouldn't normally be counted anyway, because I don't buy games on Steam, and GOG can't track player numbers unless you use Galaxy. The whole effort is an exercise in stupidity. Spyware should be illegal.

unless it's massive online, you don't care how many people play at the same time as you.

Concurrent Player trackers are the same people obsessed with box office numbers and superhero power levels. Can it be a useful metric? Sure, in the right discussion or with the right context. Is it the end-all be-all? No and you're annoying shut up

Today, I was thinking about an old indie game (Old Man's Journey), a calm game with interesting interactives. My gamer sons did not appreciate it, but I was glad we bought it and tried it. I was thinking it was like a book; someone toiled at it, a few people got it, some liked it. That's enough.

Exactly! When people have played a game that was good enough to finish, I am so confused when they seem sad about it, as if they don't have hundreds more ready to go. It's like "this meal was amazing but I really wouldn't eat it for every meal of every day..." No shit.

I homeschool. The best app to keep track of grading that I found in the 9 years I've been homeschooling was by an individual. $3 donation got you perks for life. The homeschool software on my computer was created by 2 parents. Small is better.

The “Line must go up forever” mentality is ruining everything.

One of my little games has a negative review that says it seems like I abandoned it because it no longer gets updates... The game is finished? Sorry I didn't add a battle pass to my $5 game I guess?

Gamers see journalists talking about concurrent players in multiplayer games & think that's how all games work. Even single player games. These children were never taught math & that's not our problem.

That's such a C-suite mind set. "Exponential growth or we DIE!" calm down, Jesus.

They have to make up some bullshit to have a negative opinion on. Content for the content god.

Yeah but do you have a popular bigoted streamer playing it? No? HUGE FAIL BRO!

Like the two most played coop games on PC for the past decade should have been dead multiple times over but WHY aren't they? Fuck me if I know

THIS is why Im not the PROGRAMMER

I'm trying to do math with a calculator to make the numbers make sense in my head cause they're too big. $3,500,000 If you spent three years making a game, and you have 30 people payed $100k per year. You've made back a good chunk of what it cost to make the game in like two months. Failing how?

I've seen someone respond in apparently genuine confusion to a lovingly handcrafted, $35 game that takes over 100 hours to complete a run by going "how can this be actually worth playing if it doesn't have procgen content for infinite replays?"

I blame life service games for this..

I feel like games shouldn't be expected to last forever. I really appreciate when a game doesn't try and waste my time.

Meanwhile I'm out here inhaling every single one like a Dyson with autism. They are my everything.

It's invariably for some stupid forum argument, too. "Look at these numbers, they clearly fucked up." Yeah, if their goal was to make Concurrent Player Simulator, I guess it really flopped! You can pay your rent with concurrent players, right?

Yeah for all and every game it seems like people somehow expect it's a success if numbers from the release day hold up forever, heh.

I did! One of them was a dream game from when I was 6. It's lovely to have it finally made, even if quite differently from what I imagined. If I did enough sells, I would have made a free dlc closer to the original draws, but extra time have an extra cost... I love my art. It is how I wanna make it.

I mean it's no Skyrim re-re-re-release remaster for smart refrigerators.

Lol. I'd be proud to be the single concurrent player on a "dead" single player game. New side quest unlocked.

Late stage youtube

Crazies, I tell ya.

For a single player game, concurrent players basically means nothing tbh. Like, without updates, no shit playercount drops.

my game came out July 8th. about 600 people bought my game of those 600 about 300 of them launched it of those 300, 100 of them left a review of that 100 about 1/3rd stated that it was their GOTY, so I'm happy but wait, I forgot. unless Geoff Keighley says it's good, it's not good I guess. dang

Completely ignoring the devs probably made tens of thousands of dollars out of it, probably hundreds even