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I don't want to be overly cynical, but I think large corporations only came around on OSS because they learned to exploit the value. I don't know that you would want that to happen here.

I still have my 30GB Zune! Screen has been going out and I bet the hard drive isn’t too far behind though 😅

dan, don't skip the steps. we need a ceo to call it cancer first (i think i know who might)

And Microsoft also contributed to open source

She. And what mistakes would those be?

But open source now risks AI being out of control. Back in the day we were like “why should we have to pay for these expensive Unix licenses?” Open source was a pipeline of innovation…i guess it still is?

All terms are made up.

In a few years this post will be in wikipedia referenced as a source. 😀

Corporations will always want the comfort of a support contract.

To be fair, Ballmer was referring to a specific flavor of open source (GPL/copyleft/Free Software) that while extremely successful, is far from common sense in business/corporate, even today. Many companies that are big on Open Source have policies to not touch GPL-licensed code with a ten foot pole

Hopefuly sooner than later

Damn those developers

We UNIX geeks knew better

All I know is they made Twitter into some kind of algorithm monster that sucks out your soul. This place is a breath of fresh air. This is how it should be, IMHO. BS is doing something right!

bsky.app/profile/nwra...

depends on how much big corporations will fight against open social

I'm pretty sure MS still considers open source to be cancerous to their own IP. What they did was effectively co-opt open source so they could monetize the ecosystem with multiple SaaS products, built on the backs of every single public github repo in existence.

As a longtime Linux user, I remember those times.

Was cancer to their business. Still is a nightmare of security for unpopular packages not maintained.

No Microsoft CEO ever said that open source is a cancer. Do you mean Steve Ballmer's quote about Linux, specifically?

It’s time for other cancers to follow suit and finally become useful.

You are right, and that's basically what I meant when I said they are still fighting it. Or exploiting it.

I have accounts on both bluesky and mastodon, and right now ISTM that bluesky is in slightly greater danger here. But that does not mean it has to happen, and I could be wrong about who's in greater danger.

Oh Steve Balmer…you never had the right priorities for Microsoft.

If data is not tied to apps then: - Most data must be ephemeral - Data that is required to last must be: 1. Held locally by users 2. Held by a payed service in name of the user (Or a combination of the above)

I'm with you on that and ultimately agree. The world would have been much better off with a 20% better balance between F/OSS ethos which are actually two different sets of values that overlap. So there's an opportunity to strike a new balance here, because it's ultimately builders that grow.

I don’t think “open social” is the term doing a lot of heavy lifting. “Common sense” is the one causing drag.

You get it and now it's happening. Thanks everyone.

To be honest, open source was always common sense. MS has become a growing cancer. Before that it was just a benign tumor. It's metastasing...

This feels like one of those things that will seem obvious in hind sight. "Ewwww how did people ever live like that?"

is the data stored in ways that it's generic and public and threaded? it wouldn't need certain securities that are required for dms if it's only the public data.

I'm hoping BSky normalizes open social because as an artist I don't wanna have to go through another migration where I lose all my connections and have to reupload all my old art one-by-one. 😭

Then they bought github

This could be one of the big atproto tradeoffs by choosing not to be blockchain-based (there’s lots of good reasons not to) since tokenizing value and creating economies around value is one of the few things crypto is actually very good at.

Feels like open source was "cancer", then open source became common sense, and now it's bouncing back a bit towards the middle, with a bunch of formerly open projects closing down due to the lack of funding.