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So because you made your music available on a platform you're obviously unhappy with it's somehow our fault you didn't make more money? #boohoo

Never heard of Tidal. Will check it out.

I was just curious I use Sirius in large part I like having DJs who know the history, go to shows and find new bands etc… hopefully Sirius doesn’t suck on the pay scale

Plus Tidal streams hi rez, so you'll enjoy listening more

I have boycotted Spotify ever since they continued to platform R Kelly up until conviction. I have never used Apple products, don't know that their music app is copasetic to Android.

Even more on Qobuz

I don't really use Amazon for much of anything anymore BUT the music app so I'm glad to see this breakdown, thanks.

Tidal and BlueOS. The perfect audiophile pairing. Book it.

It is a scam, musicians should boycott streaming platforms, mainly spotify

Left Apple years ago for Tidal. Much better and they distribute the monies more fairly.

Do it!! Just using Tidal makes it worth the effort.

@chatmeups.bsky.social To be clear I have no connection to Los Campesinos whatsoever— I am just linking/quoting a post on their website.

I’m curious because like 10 years ago bandcamp income could easily trounce streaming but I wonder if that’s changed since bandcamp has fallen off a bit and Spotify has katamaried even more users

THIS.

Babylon system must fall.

I rarely stream music. In the old days I bought records, then cassettes, and then I bought the CDs that were supposed to last forever…remember that sales pitch? I am back to buying vinyl records if I want a physical copy, I don’t need a “service”… I do use YT for exploring, but yah…I’m a bit jaded.

People who still use Spotify are not to be trusted.

Spotify killed any chance 99% of musicians had of making a living. And they didn’t even try to hide it, and nobody cared. Fuck capitalism.

Qobuz is better than all the other streamers combined. The sound quality is better, it pays artists better and the curation is excellent. www.qobuz.com/gb-en/discover

I but the CDs when I see the artist, especially locally if it is a band I listen to on a regular basis. That way I can use it in my car, CD player, or AIFF on Mac.

Thanks for the stats. Gives new insight on why getting off Spotify is so important.

I wrote about the devil’s bargain artists are forced into, and how we can start to change things. But getting into a Discovery Mode playlist can be big for artists. Spotify incentivizes putting out soothing background music and even has offered tools to help artists change songs to hit that groove

Because it's what the vast majority of people use

My assumption for why bands are on Spotify is inertia— there was a time when the proposition kinda made sense, but it does not make sense now. Some bands are pulling out already.

We just tried too. A lot of the eclectic stuff in our playlists wasn't available. Especially older indie acts.

tidal.com is a service basically identical to spotify, except with better audio quality, better artist payouts, and worse IOT-device support. There are also small services Deezer and Qobuz which I know less about but also pay higher rates. (I find contradictory information about Apple/Amazon rates)

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This is the main reason I switched. Other ethical reasons aside, I saw the payout numbers per stream and immediately signed up.

Unfortunately now the largest shareholder is Jack Dorsey lol (10% stake) Qobuz and Deezer (both from France) are also two independent services with high artist payouts (Deezer's is about the same as Tidal's, and Qobuz is about 2x that)

We pay for apple music monthly. I'm glad some of that money is going to the artists. It's so easy to hear a new artist, then go see what else they have out there.

Cheers, the articles i could find were out of date and suggested Tidal were 2-3 times better for the artist than amazon. I'm surprised: Amazon aren't always known for doing the right thing

You're not the only one. Started collecting music in 1989 (and still discovering new stuff), got a big enough collection by now to do my own streaming. 😜

This is the most ethical decision IMO

I don't have any music on spotify so no. I think artists removing their music from Spotify would be a good decision at this point. Many of them are no longer being paid at all.

Speak to the labels / music right holders. They decide how much of Spotify’s money they give to the artists.

They actually pay more than Tidal

🔞 MINORS LEAVE 🔞NOW

Because it's the most famous company in its market segment, I think.

So, why do artists allow their work on Spotify?

Leave em with Kid Rock.

So. Why doesn't everybody remove their content from Spotify?

This is why I ditched Spotify several years ago & moved to Tidal.

Tidal ripped me off

I don't understand why people use Spotify, their history is known.

Qobuz pays a lot more than Tidal even, according to all sources.

Cancelled our Spotify subscription a month ago and switched to Tidal. Honestly sad I had not done do earlier

Good to know. I have boycotted Spotify for years.

Dump Spotify! Artists deserved to be paid.

Good to know that this matters.

I got rid of Spotify and only use Apple.

I jumped to Tidal back in April and haven’t regretted it.

I don't stream any music, I buy it and usually from hmv

I will be changing to Apple when my old agreement runs out at the end of the year. So many things wrong with Spotify!

Are you asking me? I am not connected with this band…

Commenting just so more people see this. Go Tidal!

It's also the reason why I have NEVER, EVER, used Spotify. If I click on a link to hear a song and it takes me there, I dump out as fast as I can. Fuck Spotify.

Fuck Spotify. They support tech yo mark and follow anybody. They support the American fascist party.