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He coulda been talking about *any* brutal authoritarian shithole attempting to take over the western hemisphere to distract from their leader's ties to international child sex trafficking!

I've little support for many Roman Catholic 'values'. I recognize the position of Pope is political. But these stories fr him made me think he may have influence on Catholic Vance. www.lbc.co.uk/article/pope... Trump's excesses have changed politician's views of US/Trump a lot even in the last week.

lbc.co.ukPope Leo denounces 'zeal for war' in fiery foreign policy speech | LBCIn a critique of US, Russian and other military incursions, Leo told ambassadors that 'war is back in vogue and a zeal for war is spreading'

There are waring factions surging the church. The Vance group is trying to co-op the church because of the stance on abortion and women on clergy. I’m Episcopalian but my cousin is Catholic.

I know. Which is the problem with the church politically. Half the Catholics believe that Choice means you can choose to not have an abortion. They are divided just like the general public. The Episcopalians went through this in the 90s and we are out with it all now. But a small church reach.

And surely pro-life has LOTS of meanings beyond anti-abortion. i.e., look after the poor, the sick, the vulnerable. Don't deliberately hurt them, starve them, shoot them, let them die for want of proper medical treatment and generally show no empathy or compassion.

That isn’t completely the case. It’s less over abortion and little to none with women clergy. It really started about 15 years ago when Trump attacked Pope Francis and many Catholics decided that the Pope was wrong. The real rage came from Pope Francis declaring the death penalty immoral.

Yes. My friend mentioned that though she supports him. We stopped going (we’d trade between churches) because we didn’t like the Polish priest. My area of OK abortion is still huge. Less so women in clergy but that really ties in to abortion.

trump has only evil in his heart his core his whole being.We've all seen this we all know. His lack of humanity is appalling. To think that he could care about ANYONE other than himself is unrealistic. Every redacted page must be filled with trump or why redact so extensively? Is it still going on??

Nice try, Leo, but looks like Trump wants to leave Maduro's Chavista government in charge. Venezuela has been Russia's client state for decades. And Trump never sacrifices Russian national interests

or he could excommunicate all of maga and trump... unless the pope wants these evil fucks to keep using the church and religion as a tool for literal nazism... man, this guy must think the people are stupid. you can't both-sides with nazis and be a good human being

Pope Leo's speech is wholly appropriate and defines what we SHOULD be doing. Unfortunately the administration does not care about anyone's opinion but their own.

It would be cool if the Pope could put out an official papal bull banning anyone who works for ICE from receiving communion. Or officially designating Christian Nationalism as Heresy and Apostacy. Or officially naming Trump as the actual literal Antichrist. That kinda thing.

I am thinking the Anti-Christ is not one person. I am thinking that Anti-Christ is an archetype. Anyone or thinking that is opposed to thr teaching of Jesus is an Anti-Christ.

It kinda already is a heresy, but the problem with the “traditionalists” is that they refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the Pope. They’ll say he’s a heretic for calling it heresy. As for Communion, masking makes it difficult for priests to know. It really lies to the individual, unfortunately.

Trump's not the antichrist. Hes just a pathetic loser that got himself profoundly indebted to the most villainous people that imagination couldn't describe. He is a child rapist. He is controlled. He's not some mythical beast or superhuman being. He's disgusting bankrupt loser that can't be defeated

Good. It's about time that the church reacted to Donald Trump's aggression. For them not to respond turns the church into a joke.