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it's genuinely, authentically wild to me that there are professional reporters getting defensive about the blowback of Lipton's dumb post giving a christofascist regime propagandist a pat on the back for being nice in private like they genuinely don't understand the words coming out of my mouth

Karl Bode@karlbode.com

I feel you are completely missing the point. none of what you just said is in contention or up for debate. I genuinely don't think you guys understand why popping on bluesky to give an "attaboy" to a christofascist propagandist for a brutal regime is, at VERY BEST INTERPRETATION, tone deaf

she is a bad faith authoritarian who lies endlessly. You are not encouraging more civil dialogue with government by praising her. You're lending her more credibility as a good faith actor before her inevitable promotion to state television, where she'll spread more propaganda.

I genuinely do not get ANY sense most of the U.S. mainstream establishment political reporters have ANY meaningful understanding of modern politics, authoritarianism, or how badly the information space has been decimated by agitprop

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This is all 100% correct. What I want to ask them, from Haberman on down, is what do they think their job IS. Do they believe journalists have a responsibility to find and tell the truth to readers? Do they think journalism has a role to play in holding governments to account? Or just, nah?

If it's to transmit palace gossip, miss me with that. It's not fun any longer, if it ever was. We are facing grievous attacks on our democracy and our lives, and on the future sustainability of life on the only planet that can host us. It's past time for journalism to hammer home the hard truths.

Hold on! I think Upton Sinclair knows why so many reporters seem confused: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

The political reporters see their job as producing quotable content and have no interest in trying to find the truth; that's not what they were hired for. They're in the media entertainment business, not journalism.

Colbert: "...But, listen, let's review the rules. Here's how it works: the president makes decisions. He's the decider. The press secretary announces those decisions, and you people of the press type those decisions down. Make, announce, type. Just put 'em through ../1

a spell check and go home. Get to know your family again. Make love to your wife. Write that novel you got kicking around in your head. You know, the one about the intrepid Washington reporter with the courage to stand up to the administration. You know – fiction!"

Back in the 1990s, I had the feeling a lot of "reporting" was to publish GOP quotes, with a subtext of "can you believe they are saying this with a straight face?" and the reader was supposed to snicker with them, but now it is all just kayfabe and we aren't even supposed to care what is real.

I feel insane watching journalists from far more "serious" publications than me espouse this high-minded principle of Serving The Truth and then insist their only responsibility is to a bunch of rules of decorum that simulate the appearance of it.

Where "savvy" means "I publish whatever a GOP operative says to me, because that's what we insiders do, they call me because I am an Important Reporter and I can make things appear in The News."

Steinglass has a BA from Harvard, an MA from NYU, and has been with The Economist for 17 years, and Lipton's been with the NYT for 26 years, so I think at some point it's just insulation from reality combined with class solidarity. She's their people - we are not. (Which is to say I agree.)

The people who were hired to manipulate the media and professionally trained to do it have won. They’re much better at their jobs than journalists. Better trained and better paid. The media as we knew it had no chance.

It’s maddening. Expertise has been getting slowly murdered in back-room/shadowy spaces for decades. We are in the acceleration stage today.

Heeeeuw. I think there are broadly two classes: those who maintain a kind of forced naivete, and those who are contributing. Anyone who steps outside those two categories is fired by the editors, who are definitely all in on it.

Even more of an indictment when you're praising someone who you say is courteous and helpful when no one else is watching but belligerent, insulting, and lies to your face when the cameras are rolling.

the assumption is the private kindness is genuine, which I think is kind of naive anybody that can carry water for this brutal, racist, deadly regime is nasty

*Extremely* naive. It is a successful sociopath’s manipulation tactic to engender trust targets of manipulation by pretending to “private closeness”. The gaping ignorance of antisocial personality disorders amongst those tasked with reporting on society is stunning and existentially terrifying.