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The data scientist who developed the "detector" was crashing out against people on the skyline the other day. Because he of course is an expert and everyone else is a rube.

I think you're mistaking two different people—the data scientist who works with those results and crashes out at people on bluesky a lot (I think his goals are very noble, he is generally trying to produce material to be used against AI companies in copyright cases; I question his methods)...

...and the developers of Pangram. Data scientist is Tuhin Chakrabarty, Pangram guy (on bluesky, though rarely) is Max Spero. For clarity/accuracy!

It's "strange" that this is only happening to a certain demographic of author and that the people who proudly tell everyone that they do use it still wind up getting book deals and don't have their careers ruined.

Also, how DEEPLY STRANGE AND MYSTERIOUS that it was *this* particular author who was targeted for it. I can't imagine why she of all romantasy authors would be hypercriticised and suspected. What possible characteristic might she have that woud lead people to justify their own wariness. a MYSTERY.

Oh god, of course. When the CFO at the place I quit started looking around for jobs he couldn’t replace with AI, guess who held the jobs he thought could be done by AI?

kill all ai now

... I apparently thought that was a T. Kingfisher book...

I haven't read Daggermouth and I haven't even read the weird article about it because I find strange investigations based on ~analyzing~ the text to be... Questionable. But I don't like the fact that the self-appointed AI police are proceeding with such reckless ignorance and unhinged confidence.

I think current genAI is, for the most part, an anti-social attack on culture and society. And I'm gonna need y'all to stop making that position look ridiculous by turning yourselves into an over-correcting anti-social attack on culture & society.

Yeah I had to go outside to weed but I think this is also a very important aspect of this. It's always the racism. bsky.app/profile/haun...

The other day I put into a checker a paragraph from a document that is a decade old at this point, and it said that 2/3 of that paragraph was AI generated. The detection tools are garbage.

People are just looking for attention because that’s what we place value on. It’s much easier, louder, and more effective to have a hate fueled zero nuance dogpile than have a reasoned opinion about something. I’d bet a lot of the loudest AI opponents use it. They’re just riding the outrage train.

I don't use it unless it's forced on me at gunpoint and most of the people I know are the same and we're all very vocal haters. I just think that the people being ridiculous are still being ridiculous even if I agree with them. 😂

I use AI as a software dev resource where I feel it’s less problematic, but never to generate content for me and I can’t even fathom using it for writing or art. I think that’s a very valid stance to not use it at all. But I also think people using AI art never wanted art to begin with.

To be clear, that’s not me saying “everyone uses AI” or “AI writing/art isn’t problematic.” I don’t think there’s any real space for LLM generated art. It’s not art as far as I’m concerned, it’s just meaningless content.

I feel like I saw someone run Frankenstein or another classic novel through Pangram and it came back as 100 percent AI/plagiarized. 🧐 That’d be news to Mary Shelley!

For all the problems with AI, the way it works is to produce text that is statistically similar to human created text, there's just no way to make a machine to accurately separate those out from one another.

I think that gives AI and text-prediction far too much credit. I have huge skepticism about the claims of quality/99.9% accurate /whatever of AI detectors; they are provably not random or completely unable to distinguish. I'd love to see more independent studies.

Seriously though, try running a hundred human pages and a hundred AI pages through Pangram and see what happens. I wouldn't recommend this with any other detector because they all steal the inputs; Pangram doesn't. See what happens. I doubt it will be perfect! But I think it will be informative.