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If someone is anti-VAX, ask if they’re in Rotary. Rotary International is a wonderful organization that has done an amazing service in helping eradicate polio. Let’s keep the conversation easy.

I can see where the confusion comes in. In certain fields (eg history) searching for written material eg in an archive, is described as research. But in science, research requires doing actual stuff like experimentation/trials and statistical analysis etc. A different word would be useful.

When theoretical risks begin to override actual risks, your society is losing the value of education.

Often

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Looks like it was getting set to take off when Salk’s vaccine was introduced.

;someRandomGuy on youTube is real research. That peer reviewed stuff is fake." (essence of what they've argued to me. NEMJ is fake type of arguments)

When MAGA says "Do your own research", that isn't the type of research they mean.

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Well, not much of it anyway

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FYI Facts and logic mean nothing. …and they will mean much, much less 4 years from now.

How come Wait Was it a vaccine?? 😱

A friends mother had polio when she was young. My grandmother survived tetanus. To think these diseases may start spreading again is unfathomable.

Yes I believe in vaccines plus my immunity is shot from HIV

Yes, it’s called a natural experiment.

Maybe reminding republicans it would cause more sick days for major corporations & a drop their profits. It doesn’t seem like reminding them their voters will be the ones getting sick from voting for rfk jr. & those like him are good enough reason to vote him down.

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*then sharing them WOW

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haha no worries, I suspected you were but thought I’d throw that in anyway

These numbers are fake!!! Trump and JD found a Facebook post, which says otherwise!!!

One thing we don't see here is what happens when former polio patients get older and their issues in polio re-emerge. One of my best friends had polio as a child and spent a year in an iron lung. As she got older, she kept getting pneumonia and died in her late 60's of sepsis. I still miss her.

Next they will want to bring back smallpox. Oh the good old days 🙈

Now we get to watch RFK flip that over.

In part, yes!

Public swimming pools were a factor. Polio is fecal-oral transmission and controlled by clean water and vaccination. Cases spike during the summer because a person infected could contaminate a pool and infect many others.

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very weird graph.

Because somebody else did it for you already, I assume?

Oops. Thanks

Hey but the only thing the media care about is Mitch McConnell saying the vaccine was not a bad thing. Scientific voices are to be ignored. Republican primitive brain worms are all that count.

My father was a Polio survivor. It changed his life forever.

In 1850, Henry David Thoreau wrote “Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk.” referring to evidence that a milk company was diluting milk with river water.

I was born in 1952. Several of my cousins had it. The polio vaccine was considered a god-send

Now mirror the x axis at 1990 and this will be the future. Not flying cars.

Polio vaccination is very successful. As of 2015 it was only in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We know vaccination works because eradication in Pakistan stalled when the US used a fake vaccine program to find Osama Bin Laden in 2011, vaccine rates dropped/cases spiked. www.thelancet.com/journals/lan...

In part, the baby boom.

The adventures of public health is that when you solve 1 problem you usually discover another. There were a lot of infants that didn't make it without formula and then you discover a new issue. Public Health's work will never end, it just changes who needs help and why.

so that'd help explain the continued growth in numbers as community investment, middle income expansion, and suburbanization begin... Cool, thanks.

Bezos (your overlord) would disagree with the facts, if asked by his overlord

This lunacy about vaccines can’t continue can it? CAN IT??? #RFK

Wasn’t the critique of the “polio vaccine” directed at the inactivated polio vaccine? Your line indicate, i believe, when the oral polio vaccine was introduced. The first one.

There you go.

I plotted whooping cough on a log scale a few years back. You can tell when the vaccine was introduced and also when the kooks stopped believing in them, around when Reagan was in office.

That spike is most likely 1915-16. The first world war was raging, and Polio epidemics were happening everywhere in Europe and The US. New York City's being a better doccumented case with 2000+ deaths. People were moving from Europe to the US and vice versa so the disease could spread easily

A quick look came up with this, which may account for a good portion of that spike en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_Ne...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSee...

Yes! Needle pointing downward, plunger at the top, to be exact?

Yes, temporarily, I hope.

Trump's gotta deliver something. It might just be polio.

Make America Great Again.

Excellent visualization. Now I’m ready to debate!

youtu.be/t54I6NKtr4k?...

No doubt these lunatics will say the data has been manipulated by the deep state...

"I don't need a parachute, nobody has died in a skydiving accident in years."

Ahh, polio is caused by burning coal. Knew it!

I saw the end in my youth and again in travel. I’m flabbergasted

Let the MAGA cult commit mass suicide!

Trusting credible sources is key. Thoughts?

Trust in expertise can be a powerful ally.

Trusting reliable sources is a smart move!

I was born just below the introduction of vaccine line, when we received our injections it was a celebration!

"Experts" is such a fluffy word. Many idiots consider themselves experts.

I would love for you or someone at the Post to do a story on Members of Congress who have smallpox vaccine scars and those that don't. That's another direct dividing line. I have one - I was in the last cohort of children required to get a smallpox vaccine for school.

Or could be: Sometimes doing your own research works!

Vaccines are a modern day miracle. Go science!

It is really sad there is no vaccine for stupidity.

Me.

Unfortunately, the people “doing their own research” will not be capable of reading this graph.

Article for the rest of us (excluding MAGAsshats that would NEVER read and believe data). www.nytimes.com/2024/12/14/h...

You are correct sir! Look at how red states managed Covid.

They are pro-birth…not pro-life.

If it only harmed their own, unfortunate offspring I'd say yeh, go for it! But it'll greatly affect the herd immunity aspect too, harming us all. How in god's name did we get here?

Thanks! There's plenty more to come. :-)

Give me an 'Amen'!

I know you are in the Senate and he is in the House, but I think you guys should try to co-write a few bills together.

Despite the population increase.

By December 2024 there are cumulative 1.2 million deaths from Covid19 according to CDC. Yet they are anti covid19 vaccine. This puny graph of at most 58K cases per year will not change minds.

It only counts if you did your research while sitting on the pot.

Lame & shitty, btw. Though Polio is well known for its neuromuscular effects, this only affected near 1% of the people. While 70% got diarrhoea from Polio. One of the reasons it took while to get the proper working vaccine, since most people remembered it as just feeling uncomfortable for a bit.

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I said, “something you likely don’t have to worry about because nearly everyone in the world, with much effort, got vaccinated and Smallpox, a terrible disease that killed millions, went extinct, much like Polio”. Then she asked, “what is Polio?”.

6. It would be a shame to revert to the medical practices of the 17th & 18th Centuries, & the consequences would be as predictable as they would be preventable. Caveat emptor.

5. BLUF: If we ask the wrong questions, we will inevitably get the wrong answers! Vaccines have contributed greatly to reduced childhood mortality & the decline in communicable diseases as major drivers of human morbidity & mortality.

4. Data Quality Act - introduced on behalf of industry lobbyists (e.g. The Salt Institute) & has subsequently been used by big business to challenge all types of Federal legislation targeting the environment, drug manufacturer regulation, dietary recommendations, & potential carcinogen exposure.

3. The arguments put forth by those that generally oppose vaccination echo Loki's Wager & recall the logic of both the tobacco industry & proponents of the Data Quality Act.

2. There are NO clinical interventions without some finite risk (even aspirin), but the risk-benefit calculus for vaccines - at both the individual & public health levels - is overwhelmingly & unambiguously in favor of vaccination.

For those who have personally witnessed childhood exanthems (e.g. measles) in unvaccinated adults or have overseen the inexorable clinical demise of otherwise stable subjects during the early period of the COVID-19 pandemic, this is NOT an abstract concept or a simple, sterile statistical exercise.

I remember the turning point. It was as dramatic as the Covid vaccine rollout, where it suddenly felt like there was some possibility of life after the virus.

Kennedy is a god damned menace to society...

70 years or so of use and they are worried it isn't safe or effective?

Thank you for sharing this.

Imagine the day these people realize that the only conspiracies were the ones they were pushing and arguing for.