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As we dug into a little-known church, we started to see a pattern: women describing similar abuse; a preacher who knew what was going on. And the same prescription for the problem: forgiving and forgetting it happened. Listen to this episode of "Paper Trail":

propublica.orgThe Church That Told Sexually Abused Children to “Forgive and Forget”A man was convicted of abusing young girls in his church. Preachers had known the allegations for years. So why didn’t they report him to the police?

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Organized religion is cult. It needs to be barred from existing at all, as the mental health damage it does by creating such cognitive dissonance and fraud upon people's lives is permanent and generational. Western religion, in particular, is also aggressively violent towards girls & women & LGBTQ+.

It's not just the church it is society. I have been told to get over it, get help , let it goooo. Move on. YOU DONT GET OVER IT YOU LEARN TO TRY TO LIVE WITH IT. LIVE WITH KNOWING THE MEN NEVER GETV HELD UP TO JUSTICE. KNOWING THEY KEEP DOING IT TO INNOCENT CHILDREN. THEY DONR STOP

This midterm election, has to be won by a landslide by Democrats. so we can begin to fix all of the horrendous/stupid policy actions from Donald Trump, and his unqualified cabinet. Therefore, Democrats and independent voters need to vote a straight ticket for democrats. There is no other choice.

How sad for the victims. And how irresponsible of those running the church. Unfortunately, pretty much every denomination has this problem. They all can do better.

We had a prominent member of our small church that was convicted of sexual abuse of his own children. When it became apparent that this was going to be in the news, the conversation was never about, how did we miss it, how do we recognize abuse and stop/prevent it. 1/2

Children who are made to face their abusers by their parents and clergy *have no choice.* It is NOT voluntary forgiveness, it is forced on them. They are forced to allow their abusers to touch them again, while their "protectors" watch. The very "forgive and forget" meetings are themselves abusive.

'Forgive and forget' is intended to work within a system whose principles include uprightness and a means of repenting when you violate these principles. Requiring 'forgive and forget' of victims absent repentance of perpetrators yields asymmetric dominance, rather than spherical uprightness.

Separation of church and state,aren't pedophile Republicans who claim to Christians enough,without adding indoctrinated Christian pedophile's as well.

#Religions use their man-made rules for membership to control their 'flock'. Whatever they say goes, if you want to be a good 'follower'. All religions take from their followers and give little to nothing in return except #illusions that contradict #reality. I once followed men. I now follow JC.

THIS^ Forgiveness is how you heal yourself, forgiving yourself for believing you caused the abuse, because every abused is told THEY did something or were something (You're so pretty I can't help myself...") to cause the abuser to abuse them. There should be NO forgiveness for the abusers.

I was never sexually abused (only verbally, mentally and emotionally), but my Christian Evangelical family LOVED to use that forgive and forget bullshit!

A woman's role under Patriarchy: smile, nod, agree, forgive, forget, bring cookies. A man's role? Whatever the hell he wants and help his 'brother' get away with it. Ask me how I know.

It’s not as if any of us don’t know any better, the real issue is why a bankrupt religious philosophy needs to be preserved rather than the dignity of its “participants” - The entire framework needs a careful review, and choosing to no longer participate is the first step - Legal help is next

Personal Opinion: the 'bankrupt religious philosophy needs to be preserved' because those who benefit from Patriarchy LIKE the power it gives them just by saying, "Your obedience to me, a man, is a sign of your faith, as is your forgiveness for whatever I decide to do to you in the name of God."

The one time anyone in my church knew about abuse, the church helped the mom leave the husband & kicked him out of the church. A couple adults were put in charge of watching the kids while all the other adults hauled the man into an office to inform him. I only knew because the girl told my brother.

Religion is a licence to harm under the guise of spiritual enlightenment. If I as a woman were under a rapists attack I would pump them full of lead & take my chances with the jury.

Was talking about this sort of thing with my roommate (obliquely) the other day. About how it’s toxic forms of Christianity that act like saying, “Sorry” is an automatic clean slate, no matter how evil the sin, or how many times somebody commits the exact same sin over-and-over again.

More pedophilia surfaces. It's not just limited to Fred's little orange boy. Time for some societal introspection? My wife committed suicide a few years ago after being raped by her father repeatedly when she was a child. She never overcame the harm. Will our nation ever put an end to this activity?

There is NO forgetting after that king of trauma. You learn how to live your life. But you NEVER forget. Period full stop. The victim shaming needs to stop and the perpetrators NEED to be in jail.

Where does the 'forget' part come from? It's not in the Bible. In fact, Jesus seems to suggest keeping a tally. He makes it clear there's limits on forgiveness.

Well the Abrahamic God did commit statutory rape of the 12 yr old Virgin Mary, then stiffed her father out of the 50 silver sheckles for lying with a virgin and refused to marry her pawning her off on Joesph. Yep it’s a built in pattern.

This is a uniquely Christian story because only Christianity places such emphasis on the concept of “forgiveness.” It’s not about “Abrahamic religions” it’s about Christians.

Part of the Transcript from the Trial & Conviction of a CULT RAPIST. Because his church has an INTERNAL 'FORGIVENESS' PROCESS, this sick lunatic thinks he's been ABSOLVED of any wrongdoing. Common internal treatment of child abusers (and other criminals) leaves the them OUT THERE to ABUSE AGAIN.😡

Because dealing with it in the right way might cut into the money coming in. Protecting mere women and children vs hoarding cash? The money always wins.

Conservatives are just abusers and pedophiles all up. Conservative "Christians" are the worst of them. It's why I became atheist. I had to grow up in a Southern Baptist hellhole, and none of those people were ever "godly". Just evil draping themselves in false morality.

No more clergy-penitent privilege. No more ignoring the UN Rights of the Child. No more private schools/foster care/adoption. This country needs a complete fucking overhaul for our children, and religious freedom needs to be reeled back in!!!! 😡

There’s a great book, based in my home town and a true story , about a girl abused by a priest. They just moved him around and it was considered her fault. Even her mother looked at priests like rock stars. “Benita, prey for me”

This isn't new and happens daily across the country. The Christian faith is a haven for rapists and pedophiles. Most religions are since they preach the same. They tell rape victims to seek forgiveness for being raped too.

If Walmart and Amazon executives were abusing children sexually and the company kept it secret and just moved the pedo to another branch. The people when they found out, would burn Walmart to the ground and you know that's true America! So why do Christians in America, get a free pass to abuse?

There’s a REASON pedos, rapists, and abusers flock to the Church…because they will be forgiven. Not just forgiven, their victims are told to forgive them and move on. Zero accountability! MEN are the problem! Fuck the patriarchy and fuck the systems, like abrahamic religions, that prop it up!

As a child abuse survivor- children/victims are always made to protect the family, carrying the burden of maintaining optics for the good of the institution. Regardless if its family institution or church institution. It's a shameful secret the victim maintains while adults get the luxury of denail

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And contrary to what Oprah has said, one does NOT 'have to forgive' for one to move on in a healthy way. There are lots of people (who have had someone close to them murdered, for example) who have gone on to live good lives without forgiving the person who murdered their loved one.

This is an example of how 'vulnerance' works. Vulnerance is a form of violence where the vulnerability of people is used to control, coerce or silence them. In this context 'forgiveness' is turned into a violent tool to protect what this church considers to be 'sacred'.

My ex-mormon ex has the same stories from surviving sexual abuse as a minor. Though they were also told by the Bishop "your sins will be washed away when you're baptized later on, so don't worry"

This reminds me of the Dem party now in upheaval in socialism winning ! Has anyone stopped to think that they have been loosers and without radical change no change happens Same with the church Everyone should ever touched anyone should be in jail even worst

Various churches have been toxic sewers of creepy and despicable white nationalist freaks hiding behind a pretend 'god' while behind closed doors committing horrifying crimes. The fact is that whites use religion as a weapon to shame and denigrate the LGBTQIA2S+ and Black community. F*C* whites!!!!!

I would wager my whole retirement that EVERY SINGLE CHURCH has this pattern. I’m not being hyperbolic. I am asserting that 100% of churches, large and small, no matter the denomination or religion (Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism) have grappled with this and failed women, girls, and boys.

It’s a MAGA thing. MAGA Christianity promotes and blesses sex with children. Personally, I find it abhorrent. If I were to eradicate it, they’d already have been through the chipper.