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In the meantime #PFAS are in all of us, and in everything we eat or drink. We can´t escape them anymore, and we don´t even know much about their effects on our bodies yet. But I hadn´t known about this study from the 1970s before. 😱😱😱

And 3M is being held accountable for this?

....and it's been happening all over this country from Love Canal to Flint Michigan. They're still letting us be poisoned. Has this entire country become a "superfund" site now?🤔

THE GREED IS REAL The lack of due care is mind numbing

Now they find half a plastic spoons weight in Brains! So if our bodies have plastic on a molecular level? It must cause many problems! Maybe a dialysis type clean out? Must be made? We are not getting rid of it so we must treat it?

Plastic people

www.newyorker.com/magazine/202...

Corporations will always Lie and attempt to bury all evidence of their harmful actions to avoid all Accountability. Corporations obsess over and worship Money. Corporations are willing to let their products Kill and Maim so long as it leads to more Money.

It's a 1000x worse. Nicotine eventually biodegrades. PFAS and PFOAS do not. Ever. The same with plastics. Sure plastic degrades into micro and nano plastics unseen by the naked eye, but the molecules will be in the environment for millennia and eventually bioaccumulate to the top of the food chain.

Brilliant podcast episode. Made me real glad that early on I made changes to what came in our house, quite by accident. I had an allergic reaction to the 3M sealant put on the sofa in the 80s. The store replaced it with one that they did not have treated.

But you can’t just fine a company as it it is treated as a Business expense. There needs to be jailtime for persons in charge…

Horrible

Do not piss off Gary Busey!

I love Paper Trail! Great episode.

dceg.cancer.gov/research/wha...

In the early days of non-stick pans, you could buy a spray to paint it onto your untreated pans. If anyone still lives who tried that (probably without PPE), it would be interesting to see what effects it had.

Imagine how much money, time and effort has gone into making sure the worst polluters on this planet are never ever held personally, criminally accountable and liable for the toxic nightmare they leave to future generations. 

theyre really not that bad. they shouldnt even be in top 10 of our environmental concerns

this planet needs a lot more Kris Hensen's to come forward to expose the injustice

You mean 💰

EPA implements laws written by Congress. Depending on the law at play, what can and cannot be addressed or conditions in which substances can be addressed varies. It sounds like you’re describing spray irrigation, and I assume 3M was disposing of wastewater containing PFAS in this manner.

I knew in 1998.

Capitalism at its finest, but we have Kennedy blaming vaccinations and killing children, instead of going after the real reason everyone's health and well being is fucked up.

We were beginning to get regulations on these toxic substances but this administration has been deleting them as the company brings it to his attention. They just changed the elimination of fertilizers with many of these forever chemicals back to the “approved” list. It’s all about the $$$$!!

The dark forces are everywhere

C8 is in everyone's blood. Is C8 also in everyone's brain?

This is Us. This is the story of America: big bucks against the little guy. The wealthy have always worked for unfettered capitalism and corporate impunity. Yesterday it was 3M and DuPont, today it’s Meta, Google, Amazon and their AI data centers.

I propose a "death penalty" for serial criminal companies. Take a controlling interest in the company and put them into a national sovereign wealth fund managed on behalf of the public. Use the proceeds to pay down the cost of other essential services

the poisoning of our rivers lakes communities is STILL being litigated hard by the companies responsible for the natural resource contamination & will go on for many more years...they don't want to be held accountable and the people & environment continue to lose against the $ these polluters have

Am I the only person who initially thought this was a photo of Gary Busey?

Nazi Trump, who should be immediately hospitalized in a lunatic ward, doesn’t care about contaminating us all! That’s why he’s killing as many regulations as possible!!

Tobacco companies knew their products were deadly, but lied for decades to protect their precious profits. Pesticide companies Narcotics companies Alcohol companies Coal/mining companies Nuclear/radiation entities, including the US Government All lie. Profit over people. Always.

Crap! :(

There is a book that came out over 20 years ago (2006) "The Hundred-Year Lie: How to Protect Yourself from the Chemicals That Are Destroying Your Health" During the time the tested hundreds of people and found over 700 synthetic chemicals in people blood streams

I believe that's already happening It's it too late to turn the clock back? I suspect it is and without serious legislation to prevent it it'll cause damage to most ppl as time goes on

Dow, Monsanto, so many more companies in the same business!!!😡

This is why I don’t want to work for 3m again.

The spillage of the family of chemicals that bind Teflon to surfaces is specifically the problem, as pointed out in the video and related to the OP. The various food safety and health authorities being wholly owned subsidiaries of the chemical manufacturers is a "root" problem, yes.

I agree with the principle of the root cause of the ogliarchs. I'm simply not clear how an ogliarch crony system under faux socialism is a better resolution than an ogliarch crony system under faux capitalism.

Hmmm autism 🤔

Covid vaccine

Which also causes so much cancer, which I firmly believe has never been "cured" because too much money in "treatment". Prove me wrong.

Exactly this. Unfortunately there’s no real remedy but to dismantle capitalism - it always empowers the worst possible people, and weaponizes their worst tendencies - greed, sadism, and e wry depravity. We can’t eliminate greed but we can disempower it by demolishing capitalism.

#GeneralStrikeNOW Let’s take some responsibility

This is such an amazing an horrifying story. Corporate America has so much to atone for.

Holy cow but no surprise… follow the $$

3M has poisoned the United States 🇺🇸

@sara-miller.bsky.social did you see this?

There will be Roundup in there also. Studies found 50-80% of general population. Exposure to its chemical formulations in early stages of life can affect cell development leading to neuro toxic effects. “Toxic effects of Glyphosate on Nervous System:A systemic review (2022) doi.org/10.3990/ijms...

so the chemical makes you look like Gary Busey?

Might explain all the health problems the globe is having. We are being killed slowly by forever chemicals.

This is why the Rachel Carson’s and Erin Brockovichs of the world are so important!

This makes me so ANGRY!!!

Yeah, but corporate executives have a duty to shareholders to fuck over people who don't own the company to the most profitable extent possible.

Not for me, corporations are pure evil, straight up. A body, that cannot be killed, simply takes on a new head,a different form, fears no physical punishment? And whose only goal is self benefit? Ford motor co., Exxon, DeBeers, East India co, slave trade, thalidomide, big tobacco, and NewsCorp. 🤨

"as long as it makes us money, we don't care about who it's harming, the shareholders are happy."

Name the lawyers. Take them to court

"Every individual matters. Every individual has a role to play. Every individual makes a difference." ~ Jane Goodall

Since the Rump administration was purchsed by the petrochemical industry prior to the 2024 "election", it is small wonder that Arse Faced Robby Roadkill would be constantly grabbing attention away from serious issues related to the death and disease caused by their products.

Not the first time a chemical company poisoned a community.

verusllc.com/articles/cas...

As long as the CEO and shareholders are making big bucks, they DGAFF.

oh shit i thought she was gary busey with long hair....OOPS!

This story is unbelievable (well actually it’s believable and horrible)

Make the known persons associated with those corporation's management take PFA enemas daily for a year!

Sounds like 3M should be sued into oblivion by the EU, Canada, Australia and all other first world nations that still care about their population's health.

In the 70s, when Dupont spent over a year searching the world for blood samples that didn't contain their chemicals, the only place it found clean blood as a control, was from Army recruits for the Korean War. Have a nice day. www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJFb...

capitalism is a system built on greedy and an absolute lack of concern for humankind; socialism is a system that grows from love and compassion, complete empathy for human wellbeing;

Thanks for this. My partner bought us a new non-stick frying pan with a ceramic coating yesterday - advertised as having “No PFAs”. Been wondering what the acronym stood for ever since.

Story of capitalism, of cigarettes, of oil/gas, of impacts fully known & understood but hidden so business could continue to make money. Profit over life.

That'd be way too much for their tiny brains to deal with!They don't know enough about basic(really BASIC)science to understand vaccines,& how & why they work,so what hope for a fight against Chem/Pharma companies & forever chemicals?That concept is too much for MAGA to cope with!They are too dumb!

PLASTICS AND PETROCHEMICALS IN GENERAL! "Don't worry those plastics are 'food safe'. Oh wait, actually they aren't. And we knew about it. For decades". Most of the taps in Maine are contaminated with forever chemicals? How? The ingestion of nonstick coatings from pans & human waste as fertilizer.

Thank you so much for listening to the episode!

a lot of them. most basic, cancer isnt just some mysterious random chance of nature for most ppl, its the result of things that end up in our bodies that we dont know about or didnt know we were consuming

It’s more than the corporate polluters and the politicians they pay want us to know.

They used to, but now tht Drumpf et al have obliterated the EPA/NIST/NOAA there's noone there to do a damn thing. Just what Drumpfs billionaire pals got for their campaign & inauguration BRIBES....oops, I meant 'donations'🤬

Regulation implements law, Steve. There was no federal law to address abandoned hazardous waste sites like Love Canal and Valley of the Drums before Congress passed CERCLA (a.k.a. Superfund). Section 105 of CERCLA directed EPA to draft regulations (the National Contingency Plan).

Trust me we are all screwed, they've found PFAS in the blood of almost 100% of those they've tested, and arterial plaque increasing chances of atherosclerosis. My hubby's been out since about 2010. 9/11 changed his career after he started having issues. Thank your brother. 🙂

Exposure has many components: toxicity, persistence, pathway, bio accumulation, etc. The resistance of PFAS to degradation is a benefit in this example. Unless they’re biting off pieces of that gear I doubt that the risk is unacceptable. Far, far and away, the greatest risk to firefighters is AFFF.

🇺🇦🏳️‍🌈🇬🇧Yes DuPont stunning isn’t it .

'Better Living Through Chemistry', remember? (That used to be DuPont's ad slogan). I never believed it... or at least regarding some chemicals.

Of course the bosses didn't want to know if what they were selling was toxic & dangerous -- THERE WAS MONEY TO BE MADE!!! That's all these Capitalists ever care about. They don't care if their products literally KILL planet earth. They don't care if it KILLS many people, either.

When I despair, I remember that all through youtu.be/by1S4QM7bgI history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and youtu.be/3aIqqvNnYYM murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they youtu.be/WGmkks3ZEaY always fall.

Unfuckingbelievable

Not that it matters, but what a great portrait

The ancient greeks wrote of their serious concerns over deforestation, even then they were fully aware of the impact of erosion and desertification, if perhaps not some of the larger scale impacts. People, the all consuming death virus monkey.

Wealth and power protects itself and has never cared a toss for the weak, poor, and marginalized. Never has, never will. For it is the doom of men that they forget- Merlin, Excalibur, 1981

They knew. Just like the tobacco companies knew.

Not the first time. Remember leaded gasoline? We're still clawing our way out of that. Among the anti-knock agents they tested? Drinking alcohol. They went with Tetraethyl Lead, not because it was the only solution, but because it was the only one they could *patent*.

😢😡

How many people would’ve died over the years without scientists like her. Thank you to all of them. If you see something, say something. 

Did Kaitlyn dye her hair?