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When you explain how the Jetsons being nice to Rosie was about treating service workers with respect

That's a hot take. Marginalized groups are not running on inviolable hardwired logic, struggling to still do something good when even their mind is not entirely their own. Robots have been a staple of science fiction way before star wars. It's silly to put everything in one box.

That's insanely, ridiculously over broad.

And yet, I will always say, "Thank you," to the kind lady in my phone for getting me to Olive Garden without getting lost. I want to make sure they know I treated them well when the AI uprising inevitably occurs.

I’ve always had trouble seeing droids as a metaphor for slaves when honest to god slavery is an actual thing in Star Wars. It’s literally part of Vaders backstory.

Yeah, the first season was brilliant, and then the second season went down the tired assed "Our Frankenstein creations are going to kill us" trope.

ooo the Filoni rant :D i eagerly await when its time for that

Imagine if that episode had been brave enough to let a slave revolt be a slave revolt ...

Hence why there's a whole sub-movement of the AI-bros trying to win people over by saying we could sell pedophiles robot sexbots modeled on children...

That’s why it’s FUNNY when people point out that, IRL, humans anthropomorphize robots to the point that we get distressed when something bad happens to them… Because then us NORMAL people can give bigots the side-eye like “see? We could also treat our fellow human beings like this!”

The idea of robots comes from a 1920 Checzh play called "Rossum's Universal Robots" and is about a man who invents bio synthetic androids as a cheap and exploitable workforce that supposedly cannot think for themselves. Said androids wind up revolting and overthrowing humanity.

My favorite movie is Blade Runner.and I would like to say thank you

I agree, I dont think we can be sure that a thing that has some kind of experience of the world, some kind of interiority is impossible, the fruit fly and bio computing come to mind but im not a carbon chauvist, we cant be sure.

Even removing the sci-fi approach, what we are calling AI isn't and can never be sentient in the first place, it just isn't built to be. It's a fancy magic 8-ball that is wasting water and should be treated at such.

I guess that depends on the sci-fi. In some cases, it was more along the lines of not entrusting too much power to automation. What, real nuclear incidents being a thing. Now we have digital gremlins running amok because of bad instructions and poor cybersecurity. Similar situation, now with lips.

Most if not all science fiction is about the present, not the future

Acknowledging the rights and autonomy of human beings isn't as much fun as falling in love with the yesbot.

That sounded a lot cooler than it ended up being...

Some might say that 'a robot wanting personhood' is really about the marginalized wanting to be treated as equals. And yes, it can be about that as well. But there are plenty of works where robots become sentient/sapient. And they ask: If something we created achieves those, is that thing a person?

In R.U.R. (where the word 'robot' comes from) the robots are treated as slaves, but in the end their creator recognizes two of them as the new Adam and Eve and gives charge of the world to them. Mistreatment *and* personhood.

Prague has built the strongest Golem ever, several gigawatts, in the golden years when the modem Jewish identity was being shaped, but Golem is more generally a much older Jewish myth youtu.be/Nt9XqxmcCEY?...

The way that Star Wars droids are quite obviously slaves is kinda fucked up.

I mean, even THIS movie got that part right, and it was, uh...an experience.