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a lot of words have been written over the past couple of days about why people don’t trust Newsom but if you need the argument in visual form, here you go

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I stopped being able to do my quadrennial reread of Transmet in presidential election years in 2016 because the fantasy that revealing wrongdoing would have any effect got to be too much, but we may have gotten to the point where reality is ridiculous enough that I can read it again

the fact that Ellis apparently behaved like Spider in manipulating scads of young women for years also puts me off greatly but yeah it’s hard to believe the most fantastical thing about those comics is that the truth could bring anyone down

yeah a shitton of the stuff that I liked in college with primary protagonists that I DIDN'T necessarily liked turned out to be, uh, way more self-biographical than they should've, which is highly unfortunate that said the Smiler is an enduring archetypes in a way "the Beast" weirdly was not

I don’t have to trust him. But if he is one of just a handful of elected Dems grabbing the obvious and low hanging fruit in the face of fascism, I have to encourage him to continue. I sincerely hope every single elected Dem faces a primary challenge. Even the “good” few need to prove their worth.

I am all for him going after Trump all he wants. But people need to understand, this isn't a "stand behind our man" situation. This is a "let them fight" situation.

Here’s the thing: if we don’t get a democrat into office we will be fucked. I don’t like newsome any better than trump honestly and we don’t need another white man in the office but I think what we have learned through this thought experiment is that we need a viable candidate that WILL get voted in

And unfortunately it seems like that isn’t going to be a brown person or a woman or anyone who even marginally scares people who are on the edge of democracy. We need a candidate to undo some of this shit and I don’t trust him as far as I can throw him but for fucks sake

Not a fan but if he’s able to save our democracy I’ll give him credit & may even vote for him. No other leader is fighting as hard to save our country. We desperately need it. Our country’s on life support.

Two things can be true at the same time Newsom is smart and less evil than Trump, which makes his trolling amusing. Newsom is evil and must not be the nominee in 2028.

He's the only Democrat (maybe along with JP Pritzker) actually trying to get people to join the Democratic cause to push Trumpism back. The rest of them are all asking their big donors if they're allowed to say mean things about Trump or something.

Dude was so butt hurt when he was passed over for Kamala that it gives me even more reason to despise his twinkly smile & fancy loafers. But hey, he wore a baseball hat when he dozed the encampments.

Is Newsom a toadie? Yep. But as someone on here put it the other day, 'you fight with the army you have.' He's the only one fighting, so I'll get behind him. I don't like or trust him, but he's what we have right now.

That's a Rumsfield quote, responding to military in Iraq/Afg asking for basic f'ing equip/gear so they could do their jobs and survive. Given the US 🪖 💲, it was insulting, and a lie then. In this context, it's the < of 2 evils. 💥That's how we got here!💥 They. Work. For. Us. Stop settling!

yeah the one belief I am certain Newsom actually holds is “I should be the president” everything else is a reaction to the political situation he currently finds himself in on his way there I do not think he should be trusted with a post-Trump presidency

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I agree, but I think that's a discussion to be had after we see a relatively free election in the fall. Mediocre analogy, but good CPR breaks a few ribs and is absolutely worth it because you get better care later for going through it, instead of not at all. Then we nominate Pritzker!

the redistricting is (very) good and the trolling is good and I think it’s useful to have him utilizing his ambition to actually fight back; I actually wrote a whole thread on this the other day but it is also important to remember that this is not a man who should be trusted when the dust settles

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Can we agree that Newsom is an ally against Trump or is Newsom so tainted that we shouldn’t support his redistricting effort?

Coalition to counter Trumpism is fine. But Summer/Fall 2024 alone should be enough to remind us NOT to anoint a de facto nominee this far ahead of time. And when we do, Newsom is already too nice to folks who don’t want everyone to exist or to have human rights.

Why isn’t he to be trusted? All I need him to do is win, and who else is better situated to do so? He’s tall, he’s male, he’s handsome, he can turn a phrase, and his name ID is growing quickly. We cannot afford to denigrate our own when the stakes are this high.

I’m fascinated at how reactive dems get over a Newsom presidency at this point in time. One has to separate the importance of the redistricting fight right now from what may or may not happen in the 2028 primary race.

I kinda thought Ryan was The Smiler back in 2012, but that couldn’t be right because Romney seemed like The Beast and it didn’t make sense to have them on the same ticket. But yeah, I think Newsom fits the profile more.