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*sigh* I was really hoping I wouldn't need to nuke my Twitter account. Do we feel comfortable that they can't/won't train their model with deleted tweets?

Honestly, I’m pretty sure they’re already using it.

If the smoke is visible there's a good chance the fire was going on for a while

So I guess we should all be posting total nonsense to poison the models.

Wonder how this will fly in Europe.

So your scooting today?

@universebubble.bsky.social !!!

Do you have any idea whether this is retroactive or going forward? Like can they claim the rights to everything I've ever posted, or only after the new user agreement?

It’s does explicitly say it does or doesn’t, so I would act on the assumption it is retroactive. They’re probably using everyone’s content already, so this new TOS would indemnify them.

yeah, I assumed it's deliberately vague

The new TOS replaces the California office with the new location in Texas. So, Texas state law governs the new TOS. I don't see anything about force arbitration, but this is Texas...

Interesting. They removed this clause, and didn't replace it:

If you view more than 1 million posts (replies too), within 24 hours, you will be charged $15,000 USD per 1 million posts!! LOL

As far as I'm aware that's the jurisdiction of Texas that only has a single judge, who's both business friendly and a Tesla stockholder, so it may as well be forced arbitration for how fair it is.

check out the difference between the US and non-US account revokation terms... in the US, twitter can just take it (something about "commercial viability" and, separately, for any reason they want. non-US, they can't.

Twitter is basically a public discussion forum, why could the data not be used like this? I’d get the issue if we’d be talking about messages that were meant to be private.

The content creators aren’t being credited or compensated. If one’s content is driving traffic to Twitter, that mutually benefits both the platform and creator. But the platform wants to use that content to train its AI, which is a selling feature for its premium service.

Most messages (like this one) are not really works of art or noteworthy enough to warrant crediting or compensation when used in training AIs. Some are but most not.

@witchydaisies.bsky.social

I made my account in 2021, so I’m kind of attached to my account… I am currently making a backlog thread of my art posted to Twitter on here, but I’m still really hesitant on deleting my stuff from my account…

Alternatively, download Nightshade and post more frequently, but poison everything you post to make Grok melt from within. >:3 nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

I can’t find that….where should I be looking?!

Found it now. But their Privacy Policy does allow you to eg switch off access for Grok/ AI training. That is still there

for now i don't trust him to not remove that option

I'm in the EU and haven't seen this pop up yet, I'll keep an eye out. I assume it hasn't filtered down through "Twitter International Unlimited Company" yet.

I wonder how the EU will react to these changes. Either way, if there's now way to opt out of the AI training, then I think I'll no longer be posting on the site anymore.