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Early SO, I loved it for both learning and teaching. But, elitist moderators ruined that for me. Everything had to fit into a specific box, or marked irrelevant. So I stopped using it a decade ago.

Absolutely toxic website + a question can only be answered a few different ways so you run out of questions

Totally understand the criticism but without the sweaty old coders ChatGPT would have a lot less to work with. I always thought of it as a tax haha.

Seems like GitHub is a better resource. Perhaps why copilot is as good as it is for vibe coding, though Claude really seems to be the stand out for me right now.

As a percentage it’s almost certainly ~0%. But I suspect it’s probably a meaningful source of much-higher-than-average-quality data.

​I guess the "hardcore" graybeards finally got their graveyard. ​SO has been a toxic wasteland in the name of "retaining quality" for years. Many newcomers dread the site - myself included, back when I was green. ​Now, the moderators can moderate their deserted dune to their hearts' content.

Probably the least surprising graph tbh. Chatgpt really made a hash of their business model. I am a bit surprised to see that they've peaked in 2014 though

I’m not. A lot of forum-based programming discussion peaked around then. With the rise of social networks, a lot of programming content moved to them (remember FP Twitter?) but then you ended up with massive dilution of the signal; all kinds of stuff was in your feed.

The social networks were sticky, so they took attention away from the dedicated forums, and the signal quality declined there as well. And the issues with SO moderation aren’t all isolated; a ton of forums died from either too much moderation or too little.

With the decline, a generation of programmers has now grown up without useful, vibrant forums. And with LLMs as an alternative, those are never coming back. I really worry about stagnation now.

They sell anything you post there to "AI" vendors, in contradiction of the license, then ban you if you complain. That's why *I'm* not posting questions there anymore at least?