Post

I mean, I would, if I were them. The US is 100% not to be trusted any more, nor will we be again for a long time, if ever. Even when we get rid of the current feculent toad in what remains of the White House, the US fascist infrastructure will remain and could resurface, like a case of Nazi shingles

Olga Nesterova@onestpress.onestnetwork.com

Denmark confirms an expanded, more permanent Danish and NATO military presence in and around Greenland, beginning today. Deployments span land, sea, and air, including protection of critical infrastructure, fighter jets, and naval operations. Sweden has committed forces; other NATO allies may follow

243 reposts1.5K likes

Curious: is any of this triggering story/book ideas for you? I've not read a LOT of your stuff (LOVED Starter Villan and Constituent Service), but it doesn't appear to be overly distopian, so maybe not... Orcas and those arsehole Dolphins taking over Greenland maybe?

I’m kind of surprised they waited this long. On the one hand, they don’t want to look like they’re taking this jerk seriously. On the other hand, he is deranged and might launch an attack at any minute. I’m glad they decided to beef up security.

We all waited this long (Canada included) because supporting a standing military is expensive and we like to spend that money on social programs and let the US pick up the slack 😂 not loving the change but a treaty is a treaty I guess

I think it is kinda “Taking him seriously”; one of his stated excuses for wanting it is geopolitical security against Russia and China. Well, Denmark is a NATO ally, they’re beefing up security, a rational person using that reasoning would be satisfied. So he can’t use that excuse going forward.

Reputation wise, the US is already at 1945 Germany level. How much time did it take the Germans to leave their awful past behind and move on? 80 years later, they are still apologizing.

Putin can't even conquer Ukraine and he's losing thousands of men each day. And considering how much countries like Poland or Finnland hate the Russians... It's more like Russia is trapped between Europe and China.

Sort of. But both Putin and Trump give off vibes of murder-suicide killers. I wouldn't put it past them to just drop a couple of small-area nukes on a place they want but discover they can't have.

We’ll be lucky to keep the bases and the intelligence they provide. And we’d deserve to lose it. How can anyone ever trust or help us again? We act like a rabid raccoon.

I hope, for the world's sake, that's what happens, but so many of our leaders before this have done lawless war crimes and not been ostracized or not so for long that I don't trust it will happen this time either

We don't act like we have any limits or principles not only because we have a President who is an inveterate liar and fascist, but also because the institutions around him won't constrain him to act by the US's laws and principles. Without that, other countries can't trust us to do what we promise.

I also wonder if they want to secure the submarine monitors (GIUK) - it certainly helps us keep track of Russian submarines but it might be more important for Europe, and they can no longer trust us enough to leave it undefended. Trump is doing a good job as a Russian asset, less so as a US one.

The more worrying & disquieting element which will remain even if the governing politics change is HOW COULD THE UNRELIABLE AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECT A PEDOPHILE IN FULL RECOGNITION OF THE FACTS? & BTW a racist, mysogynist & now known to be a MEGALOMANIAC NAZI …????

Because a third of them LIKE him that way. It's not just a handful of individual bad guys committing all the SA and harassment. There are some chilling polls out there about men's attitudes toward it.

That’s exactly my point-Trump isn’t a blip-there are 70 million Americans who thought re-electing him was a good idea….how can you have confidence in such an electorate

This is a deeply racist and sexist country. More so than I think some on the left realize. Trump won in 24 with a coalition of white men, uneducated white women and--out of step with previous elections--Latino men. It remains to be seen whether that latter group is still his, but the other 2? Yup.

I'm waiting for NATO to kick out the US and close all the US bases in Europe. It's going to happen if Trump tries to take Greenland.

I had the thought that a long-term knock off effect of all this may be the world demanding a significant US military disarmament, along side growth in other countries' militaries. The world can't afford for the US to have such an outsized amount of military force anymore.

I recently re-read Robert A Heinlein's *Starship Troopers* (no, he wasn't advocating fascism) and was wondering what Heinlein would be saying today -- if he were still around to see this whole ugly mess.

Even if you vote in a new administration and scrape the tumour clean, the rest of the world is no longer going to trust the US as a stable and reliable state for some time. Allies are going to have to assume this could all happen again and adjust economic and political relationships accordingly.

Pretty sure this is because Trump pitched a hissy over the (…factual) disproportionate spending load the US was bearing under that treaty. Canada is in austerity mode now scraping together defence dollars to get closer to our actual NATO obligations. This catchup was looming for 20+ years 👀

Not that we can’t make the argument that past presidents just letting the issue lie was good international relations currency for the US with its NATO allies and maybe they should have just kept that up for the knock-on benefits of supporting their neighbours militarily…