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When is it appropriate? When he shoots someone on 5th Ave?

You think his circle of sycophants and the nut-less/spine-less Congress will do anything?

You have a congress that is compromised by Epstein files . If you want this to end. You must protest a protest never seen before. They won't tell on themselves or risk being tossed in prison willingly to end his shame. All who kissed the ring was blackmailed. End of story

4️⃣ Congressional Decision    •   Congress must assemble (within 48 hours if not already in session).    •   Congress has 21 days to decide the issue.    •   A two-thirds vote in both the House and the Senate is required to keep the Vice President as Acting President.

They want to STRETCH it out so that Vance takes office with LESS than 2 years left in the presidency. That way he can run for office 2 more times.

Thiel is salivating and waiting for the day his investment can be potus

Succinctly put 👏🏻

We have to depend on his Cabinet of Clowns. They'll never do anything. Because they are clowns.

The amendment is fatally flawed. It relies on a VP and a cabinet who are patriots. This is not where we are.

What exactly do we have a Congress for when they perpetually capitulate? What exactly do we have a SCOTUS for when they twist themselves in knots to accommodate an autocrat?

Constitution? What Constitution?

It’s ridiculous anyone can see him speak and see a severely mentally ill human being

A responsible and capable Cabinet that received ANY actual oversight or even feedback before being appointed by this doormat "congress"

We have it for Donald J Trump. Let’s Go!

Why aren’t we enacting that amendment NOW!! Trump is literally stupid is as stupid does!! But so is all of his cabinet!!! Americans are embarrassed!! Totally embarrassed! Why do we all have to suffer through this nonsense?

You could also ask why we have a constitution since it seems not to matter.

25th Amendment vs Impeachment

That’s what I want. Take them ALL down.

Corollary: Why have a Republican party if none of them will do their job?

I came across a response to your question just today. Basically the answer is that if we use the 25 th Amendment, we end up with Vance, who is just as evil as Drumpf but not likely to be taken down by the 25 th. However, if Dems take Congress in November, then there is another way to take down all .

Same question for the 2nd amendment pussies that needed their guns to fight tyranny, guess what fuckwits, your moment is passing you by.

Too late.

this is not what 25A is for this is what impeachment is for it's far easier to impeach than to trigger 25A, anyway 25A is really more for "the president is in a coma"

That would require the cabinet members to have a shred of sense and concern for the country. They were put in their positions to avoid the pesky little 25th amendment.

Red Republican legislators that refuse to forfeit power have the answer you seek. They'll be busy stuffing their pockets but can probably find the time to have an intern put you in the queue.

Which cabinet members do you think would vote for that? Seriously?!

Nobody could foresee an entire body of Congress abdicate their power and duty to support a madman.

I am not getting shot in the face by Trump’s Gestapo. Did the Germans stop Hitler by themselves? We the children of democracy living in a dictatorship in America are going to need help from outside America to stop maga and dictator trump.

We also have cabinet appointments approved by the Senate, and they approved the schmucks Felontrump chose because he knew none would dare exercise their Constitutional Responsibilities.

Same question in 2019 - 2021 about impeachment.

Well, what do we have a Congress for? The MAGA majority have forgotten the answer to that question, or never knew the answer.

Lifelong psychopathy now with progressive dementia, feeling cornered by the Epstein files and acting out. Dangerous situation-

This country is in the s…house

Be kind. Give more than you take. One foot in front of the other. And , cross the bridge when you get there 💙

I'm a broken record on this. The president can contest the invocation of the 25th Amendment with a simple letter, and he is immediately reinstated. If the Cabinet invokes it a second time, I goes to a Congressional vote. It requires 2/3 of each house - a higher threshold than impeachment.

Or the 2nd.

Something worse obviously 😏

The problem isn't the 25th Amendment . . . The problem is VD Jance (or whatever his name is this week) is Peter Thiel's penis puppet and the Cabinet are necromancers playing with the rotting corpse of DonnieDumbFuck.

More and more of these : 'Amendments' have become ineffectual if not completely redundant!

In the rest of the world, the opposition would have called for new elections. I will never understand the US system. Supposing you impeach that man, you still would have to put up with his VP and the rest of his cabinet until 2028.

Congress has had the opportunity to remove Trump from office twice and failed. The system is broken

This is just another fault in the writing of your Swiss cheese document of a Constitution. What use is it if it needs to be invoked by the President’s cabinet?

If we’re being honest, we should have used it on Biden in the second year. That way Kamala would have had 2 years under her belt and plenty of time to campaign. The Republican are vile but I’m also disgusted by the Democrats.

our laws are mere dead letters now

The oldest president in History has dementia.

The cabinet is a bunch of billionaire toadies …

Or the Second, or the others?

At this point, the phrase “President Vance” would generate some emotional relief. (Never thought I’d say *that*) I mean, he’s probably going to be truly awful, but I don’t think he’d light the world on fire just to watch it burn. And if he’s awful, he can be impeached.

Or 2nd Amendment. 400M guns, a tyrannical government, crickets.

Well I remember Republicans trying to invoke it against President Biden when he (who has had a stammer his whole life) stumbled over the pronunciation of a few words once during a speech.

Top cabinet officials have to call for this. They are all trump people. Just like impeachment you have to have enough votes from both parties. Dems alone can't do this and 4 or 5 repubs is not enough. 2/3 of congress.

The story of Sascha Riley — Epstein survivor, raped by Trump, who witnessed A LOT, and is naming names! Full interview on Substack: lisevoldeng.substack.com/p/dont-worry...

Same reason we have impeachment power, for shits and giggles.

Exactly the right question!

Agree.

Absolutely the biggest question we need answered!

We don’t have the votes

When you have JD Vance, Bessant and Rubio agreeing with Trump on Greenland you have co-conspirators not a cabinet wanting to implement the 25th amendment.

We are a failed nation.

His cabinet won’t do it though because they are all corrupt and insane too.

Is an answer forthcoming?

Most, if not all, of his Cabinet are true believers and will not remove him.

somebody, PLEASE, snatch the megaphone from Maddow and give it to Junker, we would be better served

No one ever dreamed an entire political party would back a deranged man and that members of the other party would approve his sychophantic cabinet members.

The 25th amendment was a good plan by the founding fathers, but how the political environment exists today nobody within the political party in power would step up and commit to enacting that amendment for fear it would damage their brand. Basically they’re all cowards and this is on both sides.

If only we had representatives who aren't cowards.

We have it for situations like this - but we also have a JD Vance…🤦

It’s a very valid question

Great f'ing question... I don't know how many years I have left on this planet but I will never let republicans live down that they enabled this heinous goblin

I’ll take a stab. Waiting for Godot?

you have an amendment, sure but you have precisely no-one to enforce it

The 25th is useless when there aren’t three branches of government and no checks and balances. The executive branch has compromised our entire system. The constitution might as well be toilet paper.

This. Read it a couple of times…🤷

SCOTUS justices who cover their walls with porn, take bribes, drink beer, plant the flag upside down and claim to be originalists.

"Just give him the Sudetenland, then he'll be happy." To Europe's credit, nobody over there is saying anything like this. Sounds like they actually learned the lessons of the previous century, unlike certain other continents.

Democrats, would be my guess. The Repedocans seem to have constitutional roller skates.

Just like impeachment and removal from office, it is a blanket that makes people feel better but is functionally impossible to make happen. Trump will either leave office at the end of his term or die in office. That is the only way he will stop being POTUS.

Truth!

You are right. He’s always been just a puppet. But he is losing his effectiveness as more and more people are seeing the light.

Point

He’s Thiel’s Trojan horse.

#Trump is obviously a Russian asset and working for Putin. Putin wants him to destroy NATO. Trump is very obviously a traitor to the US - come on US Army - you’re supposed to step in at this point and stop it.

Apparently, it's only as effective as the reps who wield it.

We need to use it.

So sad, too. I certainly don't know everything, but a 3 minute search can give most of the answers/explanations. Our citizens don't know as much as those trying to be naturalized. So sad!

donny picked his Cabinet this time around to specifically protect himself from the 25th Amendment. These are certified, USDA Grade A boneless sycophants.

Seriously. He's literally taking pages from Hitler's playbook.

Congress does NOT/can NOT invoke the 25th ammendment. VP and cabinet can, but, seriously, with this cabinet? No, the 25th ammendment, by the cabinet, has never been used to remove a president permanently.

Not to be snarky, but have you read it? It’s useless when the VP and the cabinet are full of sycophants. You’d have better luck trying to impeach and remove in Congress. The 25th is never going to happen to him.

He insulated himself with a cadre of lickspittles and ne’er do wells because this was an inevitability. The crime spree trudges on

We’re finding out in real time how many of our checks and balances are based around voluntary compliance Hint: it’s all of them

25th amendment worthy

For some reason there might be another cherished constitutional right in our Bill of Rights, but I don’t want to get banned.

TYRANNY

💯 #25th

Follow on What exactly do we have three branches of government for, if not for this? At this point I'm starting to think ol' George Washington should have just stuck around as king. Couldn't have a worse outcome than this

Damn shame. This guys gone too far. Look at that letter to Norway. How could you not seriously talk to other senators & say this guys not bonkers? why is everyone so afraid of him? ( my opinion is he’s got blackmail on enough high government to escape prosecution). Money, the root of all evil.

The problem is that the VP and entire cabinet have to enact the 25th. The Constitution never counted on the criminals we have now🤬

That’s exactly why he insisted on only loyalists in his Cabinet—so they wouldn’t oust him!

Let’s be specific. Those of us who are pol nerds need to make sure every message right now blames *GOP who have the majority in Congress* & not generically “Congress” (implied or explicit) bc the 90 million who didn’t even bother to vote get even more apathetic if they don’t hear they have OPTIONS.

What exactly do you have "impeachment" for either? ( twice !)