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some variation of this is what im expecting. jevon's paradox is going to push a ton of people who dont think of themselves as SWEs into weird hybrid pseudo-SWE roles, but the <p50 SWE who just writes java and doesn't bring any product or business insights to the table is turbo-fucked

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a smaller (than now) number of absurdly paid software veterans who know the insides of the algorithms, the models, the hardware, and know where the bodies are buried. They will be paid 7fig+ a vastly larger (way more than now) number of slop-cannons, -janitors, and -plumbers, paid fine: 50-100k

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This is exactly what’s happening with scientists. There’s now basically no reason not to run that data analysis you’ve been thinking about but didn’t have time to code before.

People started saying this recently and uh. That is how I learned that this is a genre of person that exists?

I mean outside of classroom assignments I don't think I've ever been on a project where "turn a description of the code you need to write into code" was an option. Even if there is a ticket it's usually your job to find the source of the problem and decide the right course of action!

While there are definitely people content to do exactly this, it's usually more of a systems problem: it's generally easier for The Business if you have a whole lot of people functioning like this. For some engineers, that's all they've ever known.

...Maybe I was lucky agents happened when they did because while the present climate is extremely scary as a young programmer with very little work experience having that little agency in my work as a developer sounds like hell.

I was one of those people who use excel to do increasingly elaborate things and that eventually led to me doing a Masters degree to learn how to code. And now, those people will be able to transfer their algorithmic thinking much more easily!

Reminds me of an old story about CNC. The welders all got fired and replaced by computer nerds. The nerds sucked at everything. The company hired the welders back and taught them to use the computers.

I am beyond overjoyed because I've always loved the problem-solving and systems thinking aspect of software engineering. Being a keyboard jockey was where it fell apart for me. Anyway, I think systems-thinking minds trained in marketing and AI tools are the ones who will dominate going forward.

Yeaaah, I LIKE writing code but I can conceptualize the system I want to create so fast relative to the speed at which I've been able to build even a prototype that it's hard not to get discouraged by all the tedious gruntwork between me and the place where I get to do interesting thinking again.

I don't disagree but I think, in our own desire to stake a claim in why we are safe, we say this too wantonly. This will be a traumatic financial experience happening on a massive scale at a heretofore unseen pace for so many people. Hurt people hurt people, and society will groan under the fallout.

Oh I can't imagine there will be any problems when hundreds of thousands of single-earner families where the main earner never really liked tech very much, but got a SWE job "because it paid well", and have million dollar mortgages. No problems whatsoever. :(

half tongue-in-cheek, half kinda serious: on the up side, if any SWEs in the US used the very high pay as a reason to not consider other countries, now there’s one less reason to stick around (the last year was a very big motivator for me to get finances sorted out)

I guess the main question with this is where is new entrants into that smaller group come from. Maybe it’s so small as a group that it can just be filled completely with software mentats