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She would have been an amazing president I’m sure. She is tough but also caring. The perfect combination for a great leader. Instead we have mean tangerine lord, who managed to insult half of the 🇺🇸 in Thanksgiving’s wishes. On the divisive part he is quite a master!

He is not a leader. He is a tyrant with a cult following, the one thing that America was supposed to be able to guard against. In this light Thanksgiving is a farce this year. We had a democracy, but we couldn’t keep it.

Counting stops at whatever is the peak for him. It looked like a landslide when he went to bed 3 weeks ago, so it will forever be a landslide. (that being said, I’m sure most people don’t know the gap closed up a lot as counting wrapped up)

It was no landslide. Like I said. The lead was one of the lowest in 100 years. I can’t share the quote to you now but it was stated by your statistical bureau analogue.

Sorry if I wasn’t clear: I know it wasn’t a landslide. But in the first night it looked like it was going to be one, so that’s where _he_ stayed at and why he keeps on saying it. It sounds legit to most because most people haven’t cared to look at results beyond the first night. (unsurprisingly)

The Trump campaign micro targeted the young, male low-propensity (and low-information!) demographic. Elon Musk’s X and other social media platforms amplified a million Russian trolls who influenced our election. How long are we going to keep allowing this sort of election interference to continue?

The fact that there's a large swathe of people in this country that think there are any actual leftists in political positions is astounding. DEMOCRATS=CENTER-RIGHT REPUBLICANS=NEO-FASCIST

Yes, unfortunately, that's how it works. Autocrats the world over depend on constantly activating the reptile brain, and giving their supporters someone to hate/fear. A divided electorate (enemies within and without) are what keeps them in power.

Seems natural for humans to hate those they suppose act immorally, unethically, who do evil in this world. In the USA, fascists and Christo-fascists hate all who support democracy, the US Constitution, the rule of law, freedom of religion, etc. Others see their values and deeds, hate them in return.

Yes. And I think it's an interesting ideas, but it seems rather cold and inhuman, and I'm not sure the practical difference. Back then, you see a Nazi shoot a baby in the head. You don't hate him for it, although you disagree his actions. But you still shoot him, right? So he doesn't do it again?

I don't suppose hate will be going anywhere soon, although if more Americans learned to talk about philosophy, particularly ethics, more calmly, sensibly, without considering ethical beliefs little hot house flowers none may discuss or debate, we might make some progress dialing it down a notch.

men don't want a woman in charge, men are the problem men know women can send soldiers into battle or make a tough decision men know this and are scared of how effective a woman will be women can take the pain of life, Bs, and childbirth, they can manage a household, company or a country

Having a crazy man calling you a lunatic, shows that you're on the right path. Happy Thanksgiving to all decent people! To the rest of you, including 45, pull your ass together and work help each other! That's 'winning'.

I’m not sure that we can turn this around. Hate being negative, but this was the election to show who we are and many chose TFG to be “the guy” to lead our country. Just watching and listening to him should have been enough to make a sound decision based on character, values and people saw what?

Not watching news.. still reading ny times but cannot look at or listen to him. In this house we’re going the next 4 years without saying his name. It may not help anything but it helps us.

I put him on mute when they show him talking....my ears hurt from the sound of his voice. I switch to anything...even a commercial is preferable and I HATE commercials.

He originally going to, but once Trump said he was going to run again he felt like he had no choice to protect the country. I’m sure if he did continue to run and won, he would have stepped down midway and Kamala would have been became president.

Unfair perspective, why should he have his dream deferred? Do people tell you to give up on your dreams. If yes, do you ignore them and continue to follow your dream? It is so selfish of people asking others to do what they themselves refuse to do. Stop blaming and start fighting for democracy!

Liberals want kamala to have been likable So Bad but from outside the bubble her whole shtick tasted like bleach. I'm sorry about it! Just insanely artificial. Send me to a men's prison about it if it's hard to hear.

We definitely failed a good one. And if you are a democrat and you stayed home or for whatever reason did not vote, shame on you! You have no right to complain..and you are a part of FAFO.

I’m reading “The Rise and Fall of the third Reich.” The similarity of the tactics and oratory employed by Trump to those used by Hitler is unnerving. As is the collection of cranks he has amassed at the core of the MAGA movement, similar to those Hitler collected in Munich to form the Nazi Party.

I will never, ever, ever understand how any person could look at Harris, Walz, Emhoff, that whole campaign and everyone involved, compare it to that angry, petulant potato, and vote for the angry, petulant potato. Just what. What on earth.

Once you realize 70 million people hate this country more than they love their own families it makes a lot more sense. Miserable & hateful people are more prone to agree with bad actors on an emotional level then anyone who talks to them from logic/reason.

Agreed. It’s shameful. Harris wasn’t a perfect candidate, but there NEVER will be that. And she and Walz were a damn sight better than what we will now have. I will never, EVER understand the attraction to that other piece of…work.

Hold on Andrew, I hope you're not trying to exclude yourself as part of America. I repeatedly remember hearing you normalize the judiciary who purposely wasted enormous time hearing frivolous motions and appeals in spite of the urgency to move quickly. Lay some criticism there.

The judiciary is absolutely to blame. They unconstitutionally nullified the 14th Amendment. The orange idiot was out on bail. Those judges could have jailed him for simply being an asshole. They let him run free threatening daughters. Did nothing about the felony at Arlington. Yes, blame them.

49.9% of those who bothered to vote. Or: less than 1/3 of voting eligible citizens in total. The apathy party took the highest spot with > 1/3 of the vote. But yes, it's definitely a voter problem... and a general US public education and information problem.

Biden TG message: “With hearts full of gratitude: Happy Thanksgiving, America. Jill and I are so grateful for the trust you’ve placed in us these past four years — serving you has been the honor of our lives.”

The dynamics of the last 40+ years brought us to this place. The dog whistles became racist rants. Education was gutted and the wealth transferred to top 1%. The rise of unedited internet and fall of corporate media. The paid weakness on one side versus unrelenting cruelty on other. Tragic results.

You right. Not a mistake but a condition. We have a highly illiterate population unable to distinguish the quality of info. So all “research” becomes equal. Even without use of search engines users uncritically accept what algorithms feed them. People are being manipulated with no insight.

Without some sort of penalty for spreading disinformation and misinformation we are screwed as a country. People are too gullible and lazy to seek out credibility and citations! Opinions are one thing but I’ve seen soo many foreign fake AI bot generated posts targeting Americans with propaganda! Wtf

He is a functional illiterate. His stupidity & willful ignorance is not just real, it's dangerous af. He is a narcissistic CRIMINAL sociopath. Zero empathy for others, that's why he was willing to let MILLIONS die from Covid. He is a modern day Nazi. We must resist with every fiber of our being.

Totally agree. His only commitment is to use everyone and everything around him, including our political system, to his own advantage. He seems to have no other purpose in life.

I would include the DOJ and AG Garland, SCOTUS, McConnell and the Harris Com team. Democrats once again brought a knife to a gunfight. Imagine if Harris was charged with rape. What would those Trump commercials have looked like - as just one example.

That's the problem isn't it? Democrats play nice, and by doing so they lose because MAGA Republicans have managed to get themselves a blanket permission by their voters to be the absolute worst of humanity. Yet if Democrats acted the same way, MAGA voters would demonise them.

Harris pointed out that Trump is a rapist and a felon many times. That's unprecedented, and isn't "playing nice". It's not even clear that helped her. People on the right think it's fake news, and people on the left attacked her for not having a message besides "Trump bad" (though she did)

Here is PA in September and October the Trump immigrant killers , border garbage and Trans adds ran non stop particularly during pro and college football and through all the baseball playoffs. They savaged her campaign and gave Trump PA. No doubt in the world it worked.

Pointing out real crimes and wrongdoings is still playing nice. Making up lies, using verbal attacks nonstop and seeding hate is NOT playing nice. I'm glad that Democrats kept their integrity, but morale will always lose against lies and hatred. Btw Harrin ran on much more than just "Trump is bad".

No person with IT / computing expertise honestly thinks Starlink could have been used to alter or hide election results. It just doesn't work that way. Could there have been hacking or other vote manipulation? Yes, possibly, but not via Starlink.

Harris/Walz were in it to represent all Americans. Trump makes it clear his administration is only interested in those that will support him without question

He even lies on Thanksgiving! A landslide? Hardly, he received less than 2% more votes than Harris. They won by gerrymandering the electoral districts in the red states.

gerrymandering doesn't affect presidential races though? frankly given the past 40 years of electoral history, a republican winning the /popular/ vote might as well be considered a landslide, it's only happened twice in my life and i'm in my late 30s

Burning ballots, bomb threats, purging the voter rolls, voting machine fuckery, years of closing/understaffing DMV offices, not counting all of the votes, etc...voter suppression across many fronts, for many years.

They've definitely been caught ballot harvesting and forging signatures, filling out multiple ballots, etc .. it's always in the news, but nothing is ever done about it.

3/3. Voting age pop: 262,100,000 Actual voted: 153,401,000 Trump: 76,705,000/262,100,000 = 29.27% Harris: 74,154,000 + 2,542,911 (others who voted against Trump) = 76,696,911 = 29.26%. 1/100th of 1% in less than 30% of the electorate is no mandate.

1/3. Trump never won the People's vote. Putting aside the millions of voters purged from rolls, the massive voter suppression and missing 20 million votes... there is no mandate that he is now lying about. He got 49% and only 29.27% of the total electorate.

United we stand Divided we fall, he knows it and it’s counting on it . He’s a vile creature who the repugnant Repub party chose & is to blame , they chose a felon and rapist to represent them and the magats found their leader of hate and racism . No we all will pay the price .

I think the way that shallow people are so obsessed with royalty & celebrity have affected their brain thinking that a billionaire family is what they want. Because they crave to be like them and watching them is like an addiction. It’s shameful that they don’t think or care about the consequences.

If a disastrous first term ending with an insurrection, stolen classified documents, and being found guilty on 34 counts to become a felon didnt change their mind, I dont think anything will.