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I was out with a mixed group of friends once, and we happened on some scum guy beating on his girlfriend. We crossed the street to intervene, but the woman (girl?) cursed and yelled for us to leave them alone. They got in a car together and drove off.

They are not "football hooligans". I realise that intellectually lazy people find it hard to come up with another term, but these are neglected people from the banlieue. How do you call them two weeks from now when they burn down cars and loot during a gold tournament?

I don't think Broad stereotypes are the proper. But definitely 🀬🀬🀬 these men. And 🀬🀬🀬 the patriarchy that enables it.

This is so terrible, and putting myself in the girls’ shoes would have also pushed the accelerator into the metal too. That being said, reading the news article you showed on another comment, it seems there may be some bad actors who would take advantage of the chaos of celebration. Unfortunate.

The problem is, if they had done that, the hooligans would probably have beaten them to death β€” and, given how unhinged they are, might have done unspeakable things to their lifeless bodies.

I struggle to comprehend why men behave like that - even when people β€˜explain’ it to me, I still struggle (if anything it ends up being even more baffling to me). It’s completely alien to me. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

Easy, put a bunch of people in a group. Amp them up with an event, positive or negative. Make them drunk. Respectible men wouldn't even be in that situation. They would be at home or so far away from the issue that they couldn't do anything even if they could overcome the mob.

Men are protectors when they know the women. This looks like women stuck in a group of unknown men. Young men feed off of each other's energy at a rate related to the number of young men involved. I hope the young women were unharmed.

What a strange response. Your first sentence says men are protectors when they know the women. That statement is extremely false and dangerous and leads to a lot of abuse of women being ignored in this world. Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them. Truth.

And that shit hid a much worse news at a French tribunal a few days earlier. A mother and brother got jailed. Someone recorded and showed the 14yo daughter with another teen. The brother slammed her head on the wall and floor. The mother tried to burn her mouth with a hot iron but got her leg.

Shame can be an effective tool in situations when people act as though there is no accountability. In this day and age, everything is filmed and the friends, colleagues, & family of these individuals should be informed. They need to be reminded that there is never a moment when this would be okay.

I've had the experience of being stopped at a red light on my motorcycle and drunken rugby fans catcalling me. I was so relieved that none approached me and I was able to wait for the light to change. They were wandering all over the road and it was still light out. I hate behaviour like this πŸ’”

For example. I can support Black Nationalists but I can’t be a Black Nationalist bc I’m not Black. If you are a cis-man you will nvr know or understand what it is to experience life as a woman.

The problem with the whole 'we are protectors' thing is human males are the one thing in the modern world that women need protection FROM. Kind of like when the firemen are also the arsonists.

France has many admirable qualities. Given as well it is the locale of a β€œhusband” who arranged THOUSANDS of drug rapes upon its wife? Gender relations aren’t amongst admirables. Also - WTF is it with futbol menz explicitly?!

Broad stroke, if def get your point πŸ‘πŸ½ BTW I am an unabashed, oft inappropriate, sports chick. My dream job after (premed) college was sports bookie. I was born this way 🀷 Granted I do not molest/burn/maim/destroy/urinate in public β€œfor my team”. FFS

They burned more than two hundred cars and an appartement building. Looted stores, attacked police officers (one is in coma) and firefighters... Most of them come from the suburbs and are young males with african and north african origins. The far right is very happy with those videos.

Okay I'm calling bullshit here. Most of the people in this video, especially the guy who broke the window were white. This is like the woman at the office paradox, where when you have 3 woman in a group of 10 people, one of the men is sure to complain about half the staff being women.

By the way, I would caution against that particular video. The web has become such a shitty place that I can't trace back its source and context, the medias don't talk about it. It may have happened after the PSG match and been filmed in Paris. Or not, I don't know.

Istg, football events should never be happening, it's almost always ends up with demolished cities. Like, last week WrocΕ‚aw hosted Chelsea vs some Spanish team I don't remember & I was there when the fans started fighting with eachother. In 10 minutes chairs from a nearby pub disappeared!

Oh my god that's terrifying. Do we know if they are okay? Why are so many men so violent? I've been recovering from cptsd from domestic abuse for years and shit like this video makes me think I'll never be safe.

Still, if there’s any better description for these perps I wouldn’t mind putting it. But calling them ”men” I don’t think so! Real men don’t treat and terrorize women like that. And all for what ? a stupid game of soccer of they’re benefiting squat.Hell even animals don’t do that!

FFS. I'm not an attorney but I'd say hitting the gas would have been morally defensible, particularly after they broke the window. There's not always a pretty way to deter an aggressive crowd. We could ask Ashli Babbit about that but she's not available for interviews.

I have and I would drive from the passenger side of the vehicle. Ladies use them hands and scream we are driving. Some women will cover their faces and not respond. I am not that person πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I am serious I would drive us through that from anywhere in that vehicle. We are not going down without a fight

France allows third world migrants with zero job skills and education to spoil their country and eventually their historic bloodline. Deport migrants at whatever cost. Let them cry in their hundred dollar nikes in their tin roof shacks in Africa. Maybe give them maps to China. For better life

"historic bloodline?" Slow down there Herr Hess, everyone of European heritage, including most white Americans, and likely you, are mutts There's a migrant in YOUR "bloodline" somewhere, dumbass

Hooligans are not men. They are overgrown children who revert to feral animals when in large packs. Only the un-evolved religiously follow a sports club to the point of losing rational thought and civilised behavior. Packs like that should be put down as you would rabid animals. Disgusting behavior!

"Back in the late 1800s, French scholar Gustave Le Bon argued that, when in a large crowd, individuals can lose their ability to think rationally. The crowd, he wrote, serves as a hypnotic influence that triggers otherwise rational people to become violent." www.discovermagazine.com/mind/collect...

discovermagazine.comCollective Behavior and Why Some Crowds Get Out of ControlHow do law-abiding people get caught up in dangerous group dynamics? Learn the sociology behind collective behavior and contagion theory.

It's women fault for choosing to sleep with those men. Women reject the good ones. Sleep with the bad ones. Then play the victim. If a woman wants a good man all she has to do is stop treating men like sexobjects and start treating them like human beings.

β€œBitter, Table for One.” 1. Your view of women is incorrect. Most women are not treating men as β€œsex objects.” 2. Men like this would still exist. They don’t behave like this because they’re bitter about who women have sex with.