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I wonder what they're being told! Also, why do so many people in this country insist on existing within their own tiny bubbles??? 🤬🤬

Halligan probably told the grand jury a pack of lies. I saw a clip of her on a talk show and she just spewed lies without pausing to take a breath.

This is a well known quote. In 1985, Sol Wachtler, a jurist, said that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. But Comey, a ham sandwich? James, a ham sandwich?

Exactly! Are they tampering with jury selection? That was my thought.

MAGA is everywhere.

Brainwashed MAGA types are making it onto juries now. Gotta be.

In NY State it just has to be 12 jurors out of 23. (Just went through grand jury duty yesterday).

I was on a grand jury - there was no questioning. A lottery to get 23 jurors, plus 37 alternates. Of the 23, at least 16 have to show up for a case & 12 have to vote to indict. We heard 250 cases over 2 years. Many of them similar to what is happening now, but done correctly, i.e. warrants & rights.

I doubt they are receiving all the facts of the cases being presented

I have no idea.

Or the bank involved, perhaps

Norfolk, VA

I hope & pray for that outcome

She didn’t.

Sam Handwich

Hunger or happy hour are the primary motivators. The bar pretty much requires a cat to clear these days.

I can't even imagine bringing crap like this in front of a grand jury. Though in fairness, two thirds of the grand jurors were probably sleeping and just nodded "true bill" to every case put in front of them.

Instructions should be defied.

That's why you can get a grand jury to indict someone pretty easily

Me too. But it's not out of the question that Halligan possibly falsified "evidence" to present to the grand jury. I wouldn't put it past any prosecutor in the DOJ under the Trump regime. DOJ, DHS, and other agencies now lie like Trump does. Read the thread under this post. bsky.app/profile/jjga...

Prosecutors are free to pick who the jurors are, the accused has no rights or knowledge of the process, and have no freedom or rights to counter, cross examine, or challenge any of the “evidence” presented to the jurors.

They only get presented with what the prosecution wants them to see and you only need 12 out of 23 to move forward. I’m sure we will see it posted soon and find it just as lacking as the Comey indictment was. I’m interested to see her response.

He didn't have to look; they swarm to him like flies to dogshit.

If they actually go to court Trump is cooked

I was pondering that too

I fully expect it wasn’t evidence.

Agreed. 100%

Do you think they follow the normal process of seating them??? The fuck that’s up with them is that they are probably exclusively Republicans and pre-screened. This Admin cheats at literally everything. They are trying to cheat these indictments as well.

They are not given all the info; only selected; which results in the decision we see. For example; the grand jury was NOT given the page where James wrote in bold capital letters, not a primary residence.There is no prosecution at the table sharing info

Remember, they only hear one side, and we know this admin sees lying as a plus, so I’m not surprised. I am angry that tax money is being spent on the Orange Turd’s grievance tour. That’s my money being wasted!

The old bait and switch.

They were not given all the facts. They heard only what bondi wanted then to hear.

These indictments won't stand. The charges violate "due process".

Check their bank accounts!!

Our country is run and poisoned by bad people who deserve bad things for tainting theminds of stupid people into being bad.

Probably being paid. I can’t put anything past this administration.

Fake Grand Juries.

I’m absolutely certain *this* is their mentality. With a huge heaping helping of Faux🦊”News”.

they are being lied to by the government and no defense attorney or ability to counter those lies.

RACISM

Their heads are in the sand

they are bribed with Kroger's gift cards

" You can indict a ham sandwich..... " but that doesn't mean the Judge does anything but tell you to go fuck yourself in the politest of languages..

Republicans just lie as a matter of habit. It is possible the Trumpkin Halligan just lied or presented false information. Likely didn't know GJ are recorded

Self regulation for lawyers is not working. The BAR needs to be revisited and some ethics injected into the profession.

I attribute it to the fact that they only hear one side, and an incomplete one at that. Not malice. But I don’t know the rules for what if any outside info they are allowed to consider.

EXACTLY

How about they're bought and paid for?

Better question who are they and how are they picked. Second question why is it secretive?

There is no defense case offered The bar is not high. You can indict a ham sandwich, as was once famously said. "I can indict a ham sandwich" former New York Chief Judge Sol Wachtler

Only the prosecutor presents. They could tell or show them anything really.

You have said some of the most inane and uninformed things recently. I’m guessing just for engagement. Can’t follow anymore.

We know it’s garbage. They will get diarrhoea presently.

It is because Attorneys usually present facts, not lies. She should lose her license after this.

It’s alright. When these clownish, unprofessional indictments find themselves before a judge and jury, the truth will come out. Then the counter-lawsuits will start. Trump will need all his tariff revenue to pay the settlements.

Maybe -- Just MAYBE -- They were PAID OFF...Ya never know what's going on in this LAWLESS Country!🤷‍♀️

I mean the only person that addresses them is the prosecutor, and I don't know if you've ever met a prosecutor but they rely on the "adversarial nature" of the legal system as an excuse to paint defendants as monstrous evil beings. And those are the good ones.

Half of them are MAGA.

In the words of late NYS Judge Sol Walchtler: "you can indict a ham sandwich."

I’m wondering what she told them! I hope she is beyond embarrassed and will lose her license. If this is proven to be vindictive prosecution, can she be disbarred for bringing it forward? Will Tish want to take it to trial to expose them more or is the embarrassment of having it dismissed enough?

I don't think the case was laid out in a particularly credible or honest fashion would be my guess. Or to be more clear the prosecutor was just lying her ass off.

Maybe this has something to do with rigging the jury process?

Apparently today was the first day and first case for this particular group of jurors

It’s not the grand jury, it’s the doj attorneys perjuring themselves

Maybe they like Regime Barbies?

Well, they're only hearing one side of the story.

It doesn't do much to bolster our faith in the judicial system.

No doubt she did.

I guarantee she did

No doubt

There's no one to object. It's like when they're on fox news

MAGA! is my guess.

Why not?

those files?

You can bet they loaded that grand jury with MAGA hats.

apparently it was day 1 of the grand jury being empaneled, and we cannot be certain that the sickofant installed as the US attorney for Eastern Virginia did not mischaracterize the scant evidence she may have had nor can we be sure she was even familiar with the case which seems impossible.

Who gets to pick who's on the jury? Looks like they picked all republicans willing to agree with whatever garbage the "attorney" (I use that lightly) had prepared for her by Bondi or Blanche.

In Virginia...

actually, we do not know what they were told

The veracity of the prosecutor might be a factor. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Paid off

Same.

We do not teach how our legal system & standards of proof are in jurisprudence in the most public school systems. Hell, we do not even teach the Constitution & Bill of Rights to any deep degree. Our District did & thank goodness.

Yes, we can! There is no excuse for believing anything Trump or his lackeys say.

I know right?!

Any ETHICAL prosecutor would have NOTHING to do with ANY of these BULLSHIT indictments!

I'm going to go with fear on this one. They know where they all live!

Exactly! It’s the only way to defeat a Bully, and there is strength in numbers! If people would only set aside their competitive greed for a minute, and stick together to stand up to this prick, we’d be done with all his bullshit in no time!! 🤦‍♀️

I’m sure they weren’t presented with any exculpatory evidence.

Perhaps they’re being paid or threatened, or handpicked or are imaginary.

Waste of taxpayer dollars- still has not increased my income or reduced my cost of living! Where does it end? Each administration charging the previous one OR we just permit each administration to commit crimes without consequences? Some 3rd world conditions here in the USA

Do anything for a free lunch.

Hand-Picked

A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich

They are paid off

They are not always getting all the information to make informed decisions, they also are low information jurists, most of all this information has been in the public for months.

Right?🤔☹️

Heard this was the first day for this grand jury.

🤑

Ham sandwich

I’m sure they are being threatened

@usarmy.bsky.social trying to tell you! Surround the WH! Our House and we Pay your Salary!