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Also could someone unpack for me what it means that the "sex noises in the gym" stuff was declared "unsubstantiated." Does that mean "it was Her's word against the cop's word" or does that mean "other people were present who said it didn't happen" or what?

This claim quoted is one that I feel is being underreported. We have a claim of actual sexual assault and then using it in public to humiliate and exert power over someone. Really fucked up and unacceptable stuff if I am interpreting the situation correctly

Being a perv is fine. Being an abusive boss is not

I agree that differing standards may be appropriate because of the differing realities. But her conduct is outside whatever other standard I may be willing to entertain in another case. Losing a place of public trust and privilege is the tiniest price someone should be asked to pay for this conduct.

Another reason it's important that she face justice is because it's a tenant of toxic masculinity that men are supposed to enjoy it when a woman harasses them. Let's dismantle the whole thing.

"Let’s get real. If a man passed out in a sorority house, he’d wake up fully clothed with a blanket over him, a pillow under his head and a glass of water at his side." Apparently in the eyes of this columnist, young men aren't in danger of being raped at college. I can't even with this.

Absolutely not.

I'm so mad she's still in office.

No, she doesn't get a pass on this crap b/c she's a woman. Do I think the Chief and others felt the kind of fear and intimidation that women usually do in reverse situations? No. But that doesn't matter. Her's behavior was unprofessional at best. Also, how does she have time to Photoshop so much?

No

And this was a long long time ago, way before MeToo

No. She does not get a pass. Just because it's less common doesn't mean it's ok. Also, the big thing here is the power dynamic. Bosses should NOT be putting their hands on employees, making sexual innuendos, etc etc. She wasn't hired to F around. She needs to do her damn job working for the people

Nope.

no, of course not. that is race to the bottom shit, the same mentality that leads people to thinking it's OK to say slurs now because donald trump is president

Ew, no. She’s just as gross and bad as a man would be in the same situation

Interesting profile of the still-very-real gender gaps in society, but not a particularly compelling defense of the Mayor's alleged conduct.

Ugh, no. Harassment and abuse are intolerable, regardless of who the perpetrator is. Or who the victim is. Women shouldn’t be held to a lower standard.

It was left open to see what would fill it

Absolutely not. I am stunned that she hasn't been forced from office. I read the complaint and if it's found to be true, she should be prosecuted, IMO.

No. “They did it first so it’s ok if I do/she does it” is school yard nonsense.

Nope.

i think if there's anything that muddies the waters it's more that the people making the claim are cops who clearly have beef with her. To which the easy answer is "get rid of them both" lmao but

Probably correct. It’s not that I think she should get a pass, but methinks some of this must have to do with police/mayor relationship politics. Also, I am inclined to be highly skeptical of a suit by a male police chief for sex’l harassment (I worked 42 years in a male-dominated profession).

Imagine if Ilhan was accused of this stuff?