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Wondering what leverage in negotiations looks like? Australia's new FTA with the EU provides 16,830 tonnes of tariff free access for beef. Australia's FTA with the UK, completed with a desperate Johnson administration, provided 35,000 tonnes tariff free, rising to unlimited over 15 years.

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🇪🇺 Crucial to living in #EU is that Australian beef MUST meet strict quality, traceability and hygiene standards. I can trust it. Since #UK committed #Brexit, brits have to blindly trust whatever supermarkets say. Often only a general UK packing station no. and a 🇬🇧 flag. Hormone, antibiotic checks?

The Johnson government didn't think they just wanted a "deal". Even "Useless" George Eustice the DEFRA Secretary at the time the deal was made said in the commons only months later that it had been bad deal for UK farmers (not just the beef - other areas too).

Was this not a Truss gig? Turn up like David Davis with a notepad and wing it. And like wearing mirror glasses to a poker tournament, got cleaned out.

Australia's EU FTA deal - 16,830 tonnes of tariff free beef Australia's UK FTA deal under Johnson - 35,000 tonnes tariff free beef, rising to unlimited over 15 years "It's a great deal for Australia" - 9News presenters literally laughing at us in 2023 One of Australia's leading news stations

You can simultaneously think beef tariffs are bad and accept that keeping them was something both the UK and EU government wanted to do, as manifest in these negotiations. Money is the root of all evil but if I lose all mine at poker it's fair to observe I suck at cards. bsky.app/profile/expl...

Dmitry Grozoubinski@explaintrade.com

Yeah. There are two separate things here: a) A policy argument about the wisdom of agricultural protectionism; and b) A negotiation observation about the fact that it was/is policy, and Australia was able to push the UK much further off it than it has been the EU.

Bluesky scold here. 16,000 tonnes of beef means an extra 300,000 tonnes of CO₂ in the atmosphere, plus the same amount of methane. And nobody actually needs to eat the bloody stuff. So I think exorbitant beef tariffs are good actually, and should be levied on domestic production too.

To put that figure into perspective, UK domestic beef production last year was 937,000 tonnes. If your policy objective is driving down meat consumption then, as you say, a tax on all beef and not very selective tariffs is the way to do it.

The then Business & Trade Secretary, Kemi Badenoch, proudly announced: “Today is a historic moment as our first trade deals to be negotiated post-Brexit come into effect. Businesses up and down the country will now be able *to reap the rewards of our status as an independent trading nation.* ” 🤔🧐🤨

Remind me, what’s a foot in english? Just trying to visualise your useful analogy. 🇪🇺 A standardised set of measurements across a marketplace of 500million does help. When #UK rejoins 🇪🇺 it might be useful to upgrade to metric. #RejoinEU.