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I have to admit that the one tiny silver lining of our horrific current moment is that you just don’t see people shanking each other over stuff like “is it cultural appropriation for a white woman to sell coconut water” anymore

James@gravitysra1nbow.bsky.social

>remembering that people used to knife fight for weeks about how fusion cuisine was imperialism

(I also couldn’t help but notice at the time that white *men* running restaurants and selling products from cultures they didn’t originate from usually got way more of a free pass than white women doing the same thing, but well, so it goes).

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The other one i still think about frequently are the posters (inevitably white themselves) who were convinced white people saying “y’all”, because they are Southern, are Deeply Problematic

And yes, we of course should still call out white people who are being shitheads who refuse to acknowledge who they got their ideas from or who inspired them, but I still think deeming randos history’s greatest monsters over stuff like coconut water was not, perhaps, the best use of our energy

at least in my social world, I’m not seeing a retreat from social justice, but I am seeing a pretty encouraging degree of “perhaps we should focus less on being right on the internet as a way to fight bigots, and more on actually doing stuff”

Woke 1 at its worse (nowhere as bad as conservative authoritarianism) "became a vehicle for social climbing and in-group recriminations. Want to declare someone persona non grata? Invent some social justice grievance. Want people to think you're a good person? Say slogans." bsky.app/profile/whst...

Will Stancil@whstancil.bsky.social

This is not an indication that the ideas were taken too far, simply that they were deployed cynically by people who did not care about them. Which, you know, should not come as a surprise when you're talking about the leadership of the friggin' Target Corporation or whatever.

I sincerely wish I could pull off a "y'all", but it sounds so ridiculous in my accent that I have to settle for lesser options. (I continue to work to not say "you guys" because even though where/when I grew up it was considered non-gender-specific, it isn't here and now. Despite "bruh")

Are bruh/ bro non-gendered now? I'm on some Korean drama reddit groups and posters (whose native language may or may not be English, there are international fans) always annoy me by addressing random posters they're arguing with as "bro" Or maybe they think it's just cool slang in English?

well, in K-dramas themselves everyone addresses each other by their "connection name" e.g. brother, sister, uncle, grandma more than their given names. this might have to do more with the K-drama culture rather than English slang.

I mean, just from a pragmatic perspective the fact that English doesn't have a standard second person plural pronoun, and there are a lot of situations where one might want such a thing. "Y'all" is certainly more intelligible than "yinz."

my secret identity once had a south african white girl on twitter claim she was appropriating aave for using "y'all" nope, kid, just texan

Suppose it's your culture to appropriate culture? I don't wanna be a romebro, but to my understanding that is a huge part of why their military did so well for so long. Just copy the stuff that works well from everyone you meet.

Well yeah, of course. Cultural appropriation is a long-standing tradition among white men, and appropriating cultural appropriation is basically spitting in my face.

Culture can’t be appropriated or stolen. Culture is influence. The purpose of culture is to influence — to change art, fashion, food, language, music, etc. Cook, wear, play what you want. Take ideas from other cultures and create new things. Give props to creators and don’t be an asshole. Simple.