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This is bullshit lol

Tim Cook sucked off Trump. Cause for worry.

Yes! Thank you! This amounts to performative justice. Not making an Android version, or a website alternative is classist as duck

To restrict the app on this justification is classist and performative. Especially when Tim Cook (and literally every other tech CEO) is getting in bed with Trump. You're kidding yourself

Oh no, who will think of poor old Google? My point is about the amount of highly sensitive GPS data they store tied to your account and device which they can then use in court to say, “yeah this person obstructed; they were at work when this post was created with an accuracy of within x feet”

Evidence please?

Ok, but why would you trust them?

Frowny face. ☹️

Well that sucks

https://bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/post/3lswujex4e22w

🤥

There‘s also this website

Without anyminity, you could reveal the people you're trying to protect.

Was excited about this app but I feel y'all have revealed youre a bit ignorant about Apple's 'privacy' protections with this post. Yikes.

Is it open source? Perhaps this can develop into a protocol and be open source so that others can develop and distribute apps that can interface with the same network and protocol. I think there are certainly ways this could be done, and probably should be to maximize accessibility

This is complete nonsense.

What about Push API?

𝚈𝚎𝚊𝚑 𝚎𝚒𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛 𝚊 𝚠𝚎𝚋 𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚘𝚛 𝚊𝚗 𝚊𝚙𝚙 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚊𝚗𝚍𝚛𝚘𝚒𝚍. 𝚆𝚎 𝚗𝚎𝚎𝚍 𝚒𝚝 𝙰𝚂𝙰𝙿! 𝙶𝚘𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚗𝚖𝚎𝚗𝚝 𝚌𝚊𝚗'𝚝 𝚜𝚞𝚋𝚙𝚘𝚎𝚗𝚊 𝚊 𝚋𝚞𝚛𝚗𝚎𝚛 𝚙𝚑𝚘𝚗𝚎.

Don't immigrants know how to use a VPN?

Are you trying to imply that the iOS version provides 100% anonymity? I'm quite sure that it doesn't.

I have an iPhone and if I download and use the app I’ll be doing it under the assumption that it isn’t totally secure/anonymous anyway. It seems like there’s always a way for the government to get data from big tech, or for hackers to steal it. I don’t believe any of the privacy assurances.

No.

Same!

STOP LIKING THIS LIKE MY FUNNY POSTS INSTEAD I DONT WANT TO BE THE COMMON SENSE GUY

Why are you giving Apple, an AI company, everyone's data by only making your app for iOS? iOS doesn't protect data from Apple.

...that's the most absurd thing ever... Do you not think the list of users who have downloaded the app ISN'T stored and discoverable?

You should make a "read only" version for Android then.

Yes. Have you considered that flashing custom ROMs is generally outside of the technical expertise of most general android users?

Evidence please?

Dangit

Weird how the developers of this app know that only Apple has the protections in place that are required for anonymity, while non-developers are dissing Apple altogether... for having those protections already in place, while Androids are not protected.

People can always misuse play.google.com/store/apps/d... for Android, it might upset some fishermen, but C'est la vie

So it can notify you of any ICE presence nearby.

Is it some framework that requires this? Android itself doesn't require any backend at all to fire a push notification.

@5calls.org did you perhaps find a way around this? I know you're trying to collect as little as possible

Please DM me, we can solve this problem.

51.04%. Yes a majority, but slimmer than one might think. Source: worldpopulationreview.com/country-rank...

What % of people with phones in the USA would you say is "enough to fill out sightings"?

I'm an immigrant who uses an android, by the way. I'm specifically taking issue with the idea that half of the USA -owning population is not enough "to actually fill out the app with sightings"

Just do a version without push notifications. Or better yet go open-source and let others do it for you.

Android users can DM me for the app that ppl are using

TY I have been asking about the anonymity

Some people might be willing for the government to find out who they are. F*** the government. Bite me.

Is there any way we could get a version that was usable on say a Surface Pro or other tablet kinds of devices? I'm not worried about myself, but I would like to track activity in my surroundings for other vulnerable people. . . bsky.app/profile/iceb...

We really need one

Horseshit

What about Fdroid store?

Ugh. This is disappointing.

F-droid. Ever heard about that? "Only iOS made this [100% anonymity] possible and completely protects the users." If you've ever paid any serious attention, you'd have realized that Tim Cook & Co. will absolutely choose money over its users' privacy. Every. Single. Time.

Would a webapp work?

Why not release on F-Droid or push the APK to GitHub to load with Obtainium? Android is more accessible to lower-income communities, and its marketshare vastly outstrips that of iOS’s in international markets. There are plenty of reasons for the communities at risk here to opt for an Android device.

This is nonsense. I'm sorry, but no.

I know, dude could just open-source the project and folks would literally solve this for him.

📌

TIL

Apple devices, as we all know, are generally more expensive than Android. The people who most desperately need your service most likely have Android devices. Giving up on them when you could simply develop a web app or distribute using F-Droid is quitting an inch before the finish line.

I would be absolutely floored if that doesn't connect to your Google ID, even if it doesn't show publicly

Could be done by polling. Don't log the polling pings any longer than necessary to block denial of service attacks, and there's no data there to subpoena.

Over a month later and zero evidence provided by @iceblock.app for either of the two claims. I'm especially interested in the claim that iOS provides "total anonymity" for users.