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also a thing for sure

Well it's like what some say about capitalism: it's a place where passion goes to die.

Obviously still an existential threat to the paid artist job as we know it.

I have the misfortune of learning a new programming language every few weeks but I really want that misfortune or I wouldn't do it. I don't learn anything if I use ai

I've been describing it as a self-esteem crisis. Too afraid to even try. A lot of new artists use it to make a reference for them to copy. They've outsourced their own imagination, too afraid to even try.

This is true on so many levels. It just seems there is a "barrier" for a lot of people to suspend their own ego. Too afraid to fail. To afraid to practice and be bad. Every new "role model" isn't struggling or showing struggling because algorithms drive clicks. Ego is preventing attention of self.

"the foundation of such a method is love. i love you, you fucking dipshit. blocked and reported..." #THIS 😁 @dren.ch thanks for sharing. It was a good read (along with some of the comments).

Are you watching me? *Looks around suspiciously*

I do think theres a solid nugget of truth to this though. I often feel compelled to be good at something, anything. No strong passion for the thing itself, just a yearning to have the skill.

Way too many people spend their lives on so called "BS jobs" thus this apparent void of purpose in life besides making money to survive. An artist's life, successful or not, is anything but that. There's always a purpose. And AI is still a poor excuse to fake that. 🙃

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Yes, agreed. It’s like people who want to write a novel but only as an idea of doing such, never working towards the goal of having DONE. The other aspect is… that’s the fun part. That’s the part with the most value. The DOING. not the end result.

I taught my self my own weird way to "play guitar". I have weird fingers, and I also set it up in "the key of air conditioner". At 39, I saw my cool SIM leveling up his guitar skill, by DOING, and that hit me hard. Practice is everything. If you want it, you gotta DO!

What I think a lot of people who aren't actively creative don't understand, is that creativity in and of itself is a skill that must be practiced and refined. The more you do it, the easier it becomes to do, and to act upon. Or maybe they do know, and like you say, they want to want it, but don't.

For me, the temptation was my dysgraphia. While I can draw a little bit, it's painful for me, and composition is a lot more difficult because I have trouble arranging things in space. But I'm more content pursuing actual creative outlets. Anything an AI produces is disappointing anyway.

Speculative. Astute. Close enough and on the money. AI “art,” when shared as IP, is a cheat for those who believe they don’t need to earn it. It’s no different than using a random generator on a drum machine and calling yourself a musician. People have myriad reasons, this is probably one of them.

Yeeeeeep, they want to do the easy part and have none of the real skills or talent.

This is going to be the thing you're famous for (and I know you were well known for the video shitting on unreal mapping tools lol)

This is what I say to people who wish they were writers but can't write and don't want to practice getting better at it when they can just press a button. It's weird. What for? How can you claim to have made anything that's made by a robot? For me, creativity is all about the process. Without that?

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Never thought about it this way I struggle to motivate myself to make art, I never thought about what it would be like if I didn’t have the compulsion to create, but felt like I should Very well written good sir.

This is also probably why online courses sell so well. People want to have a skill. But it often takes a level of dedication that you can only commit to if you're genuinely interested in the thing. Sometimes mild interest just isn't enough

Me playing guitar: I wish I was better. Guess I need to spend more time practicing and gain joy and insight from the experience even if it's frustrating and slow sometimes AI person: I can generate 300 songs in a minute. I will remain unchanged as a person and the world will pass me by

That means my output is very sporadic, but at least I'm okay with what has come out. I only wish I had an entire separate life that I could dedicate to that instead, would've made my gramps a bit prouder.

if it's what I'm talking about it's not irrelevant

Art made by humans. There are many places to find it

My topology might be shit but at least I know who's to blame.

This fits with their incredulous response when they ask, “Don’t you want help generating ideas?” No, I have a million ideas. Really. And I enjoy fleshing them out myself. I need and want to do it myself.

Another thing is outsiders simplify the process of creation to "coming up with an idea", especially because the "creator" CEOs like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are said to making their fortune on the backs of ideas they came up with.

honestly this is just incredibly flattering because i power through my lack of desire to make art in order to enjoy it more over time you'd think it's a superpower but it's just a natural consequence of wanting to change really hard

You could write a book and not give as much insight into human psychology as that first sentence there. Big oof.

Yes, this is so right. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, was cathartic too read.

Yeah, I get that. That's pretty much me with programming. I love programming, but hate the learning process. I think art is a close second, mainly because I'm a writer. I've tried learning to draw, and it can be fun, but often I'll starting thinking, "I wish I writing right now."

that sounds like a good friend

You're telling the story of someone who expects to be instantly good at art, who believes skill comes from talent instead of passion, study, and lots and lots of hard work, and who tries to tear down that 'talent' instead of putting in the time and effort to learn and grow and raise themselves up.

That's a bullshit excuse. The majority of real creatives are very supportive of beginners, because they full well know a time when they were starting out as well. Other than AI "artists", who never were in that position, thus much more likely to shit on real beginner artists.

It can *sometimes* be a case of sharing too early. If I were learning music again, I wouldn’t put videos of me barely stringing a few notes together online. Similarly, there’s little feedback anyone can give on total beginner sketches. You just have to do the 100s and 1000s of sketches to improve.