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saw this, got confused, booted up hammer to mess around... then checked the discord where devs are straight up saying they're gutting it and putting its features into the scene editor? i see where they're coming from but idk if i like that workflow. what if i just want my standalone no BS hammer

damn, these guys look like they were made for Rust.

yeah! that's what I meant. it's overly realistic, full of grit and veins, weirdo shit.

Did you see what Amazon did to the crytek engine? From what I've heard, it's on par.

mfw requested early dev access to this only for 99% of it being a weaker roblox

I'd kill to use hammer for single player games and these fuckers got access to it and decided to gut it. Incredible levels of dumb.

I mostly just mean competing as in occupying a similar niche, since Roblox also tries to let people make games/let the devs make money from it. Even if it's not intentional, devs can ask themselves at some point "should I make my game in Roblox or s&box if I want to reach a large base and monetize?"

link?

As someone who's been playing gmod since I was too young, it is one of those communities that had just as many grooming and chud problems as it did positive experiences and the "letting the cat out of the bag about facepunch being made up of 4chan losers" is a total water is wet for me.

Someone just linked me to this post, and...fucking YIKES.

Garry’s Mod gets better all the time but it’s stuck with a single developer with zero resources beyond their own hands and computer

same dev just straight up has a maga pfp on the s&box discord. what are we doing

Jesus

i bet this'll get screenshotted lmao

it doesn't surprise me. facepunch was a noxious place.

well, there goes the whole “successor to Unity” momentum. fucking gross

Okay this is bad, but the single ❓ react is fucking killing me

That's hilarious

This is really telling because s&box seems to really really really be Roblox in all the bad ways

while we are on it, i also hear they removed source 2's i/o system! i did a blog post about why those are great recently, not really ever surprising whenever anyone doesn't understand their purpose bsky.app/profile/joew...

I really wanted to try s&box but this is a pretty effective way of putting me off.

Ppl with uninformed opinions about things tend to also have uninformed opinions about other things

The catch 22 of the source games community since 2000

I assumed this was the culture at FP when I saw SamZaNemesis(?) was a LibsOfTiktok fan

oh dear.

I watched a video a couple of days ago where somebody repeatedly said other engines (including Godot for some reason?) should be scared of sandbox and I guess they were right but in only ways they never even considered. I was excited to see more open source engines, what an absolute shame.

That was honestly the only reason i wanted to mess with it

Hammer 2 slaps but taking something and making a shitty copy seems to be S&box’s entire MO so this does not shock me

I am now and will continue to be mad about S&box They have made baffling decisions and the Facepunch developers are actively hostile to users in their public company Discord A company by and for the worst of forum users with no adults in the room or building

cs2 and dota are on very recent versions of source 2 (iirc april and march respectively) and have up to date versions of hammer but you can't really use them for making half life style singleplayer maps

Yeah but for Singleplayer level design basically one game has it

Well there went any interest I had in S&Box. Source 2 Hammer was a huge selling point. At least we still have Scythe.