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Please make this for paper as well. I love the witinn verisions that have been made before. They're some of my favourite cards and I love the reimagining that you guys do for the in universe verisions. Please do this for us paper players too ❤️

Beyond me thinking that Standard should always be about the Magic story-line, the higher price point for UB sets is a big problem for me when it comes to Standard.

Wish you released the Universes Within versions in cardboard. Just for those who want alternatives to Fortnite.

Please just take non MTG IP out of standard. Please.

So paper players are stuck with ridiculous super hero cards?

Just take the L and remove all Marvel sets from Standard (or better yet all UB sets). This change is very much in contradiction to your selling point of having UB being in Standard making it "easier" for newer players.

Everyone asking “why not do this in paper” lmfao it’s because they want you to only be able to buy the expensive UB cards. If you had the choice and the Universes Within sold higher than the marvel cards Wizards would lose so much money lmfao

Shock and surprise. Will we be seeing these Universes Within versions available in print at some point via list slots, or are we stuck with only the UB versions?

This is a great idea, what if you did it for... every set?

Damn, so no official proxy arts for FF? When I read the article I was happy that I would be able to ignore the FF set art :(

There will be $95 Secret Lair drops for four select reskins of spidermen that you’ve already pulled on Arena for free. If you pay $155 for the foil version you also get a complimentary Siege Rhino with Paul Giamatti art.

Same, I was hoping for in paper universe’s beyond within omenpath set. At least this a step towards it.

Coming soon to a screen near you:

is standard revitalized yet? what happened to that plan?

ooo, could we maybe get them instead of spiderman actually?

They'd better at least use the Godzilla name bar for the paper cards. If I have to squint at the collector numbers to figure out which cards are which I'm gonna be mildly inconvenienced

Oh, neat, I won't even have to think of how to proxy cards from universes I don't understand but like the rules of, I'll have ready made ones to just adapt to paper

good shit

This should've been announced along with the Spider-Man set. It's extremely disappointing to just now find out it won't be available digitally.

lol

I would rather get these in-universe sets in paper too.

I've been slightly positive regarding UBs until now. But I'm guess people who mostly play limited and do it 50/50 in paper/online isn't who you're doing this for and we'll just have to eat it. Will see if this is just annoying or if I'll hate it 🤷

Every time WotC does something players have been asking for:

Sometimes I worry all you know is flop :(

Give us a 'Through the Omenpaths' version as a printed set, at normal retail prices, and the problem will be solved. Let's find out how much that "IP" is ACTUALLY worth... 🤬

It's funny that my preferred versions of cards will be digital only. Even more reasons to proxy?

April Fool's is the 1st.

Even just doing that for only the cards you expect to see constructed play would help. I get that I'm probably way too late in asking for this. So I'm really hoping you've thought of something like that already, as players won't want to memorize collector's numbers.

Maybe if you can't put UB on Arena, UB shouldn't be standard legal? Looking forward to the public domain The Last Fantasy, The Human-Spider, and Elemental: the Last Wind Person

Magic has said multiple times that they are not doing that and have a lot to lose. This wouldn't even be a good excuse.

Remember when they said they'd do this for paper magic and then only did it for the Stranger Things partners, the Godzilla cards, and literally nothing else? Whatever happened to that?

I would argue heavily for Through the Omenpaths to be in-paper too. There are some UB cards that mechanically are pretty fun and I’d like to play with, but the aesthetic departure for many leads me to exclude them from decks. More in-universe treatments will make me want them in decks more.

Given I’d rather take a power tool to my abdomen than play with Marvel cards, this is 50% a good thing. Now if we can just do the same to the paper product too, Standard will be considerably better. Same goes for all UB stuff. Fine in Commander and Secret Layers. Gross in Standard.

MSRP: Even more than the IP sets.

Ah yes, the universes within that we were told we weren't getting, but only for digital! This is probably very good and the company is definitely not a shitty mess for trying to pretend to be a toy company instead of a living game.

Lol

Can this be the beginning of the end for dedicated UB sets and they are just relegated to either EDH or secret lair? Doubt it, but it’s nice to dream.

Absolutely baffling

lmao

They've said that if and when the cards are reprinted, the reprints will be the in-universe version. The bar to reprint them will likely be lower because the creative work for the in-universe version is already done.

This is awful and will be immensely confusing and damaging to coverage. Most people practice a lot digitally and then play paper tournaments, having to learn new names and arts for every card they draft???? This is why UB is just bad, you’re creating new problems trying to make a problem work

Could... could we get Through the Omenpaths cards in paper? For those of us who strongly dislike UB as a concept? Since you're already going through the trouble of *making* all the cards for digital? Please?

Proxy people, proxy Proxy these stupid UB sets into the ground, so they lose a ton of money and stop making them. It's the only way

This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read The only reason you're announcing this now, is because you've reached your preorder goals because you knew the hype would not be as high if you announced this at the same time you announced the set I genuinely hope you lose a lot of money on this 🖕

This... is exactly the opposite of what makes sense.

It’s honestly embarrassing how far you guys got into this process before (probably) being informed there are legal issues with Spider-Man in the digital game You deserve it too

Not what I'm saying. I'm not happy with this ammount of UB, specially in standard, but saying that success="what players want" is only gonna bring more UB, because that shit sells

It's Warhammer's Reaver Titan *and* "Urza's Battlewagon" It's that, times 300, three times per year. 900 new names and cards. You recognize Mirkwood Bats, but will you actually clock Strixhaven Starlings when it's on the board?

Yea, it's gonna be weird. But we're already gonna have that weird split between digital and paper, so might as well make things a bit more consistent. Dunno, it's an odd event, all around. 🤷‍♂️

would i personally be able to remember them all? yes. i'm a maniac. is it a good idea or reasonable for 99.9% of players? absolutely not. but that's already what is happening, albeit only in digital.

I'd also love to get some new lore for these cards. I want to learn more about Wernog and co.

They could make every UB card double sided, like the recent dual art cards in Tarkir

Does the data show that UB is worth this hassle? You might push some product but are people actually continuing to play the game? I didn't see a real UB card in any game that I played at #mcchicago. Everyone was using proxies because the sets are so inaccessible. Hope all this bullshit is worth it.

this is extremely stupid

"This lets our formats remain mechanically at parity with one another digitally without having to create patchwork solutions here or there." Did we forget Alchemy exists?

This.....actually is a good call from a thematic perspective. It's a shame it isn't all of them and paper players don't get it

Proxy with abandon, baby.

Just don’t buy them. I also have just stopped engaging with these type of products. Stop giving them your money, if enough people do the same it will actually reach them more then any post ever will.

That's because players, as a whole, AREN'T vocally complaining about UB. Feedback on Universes Beyond has been overwhelmingly positive. Most people are either excited about it if they're fans of the IP or neutral about it if they're not.

What I mean is with existing players. Naturally, people who come to the game as fans of the UB IP will like to play that version

i prefer knowing things about magic and not about not-magic so thanks anyways

Thanks for a real answer

The fact that this magnitude of dev recources can be thrown at this problem at the drop of a hat just reminds me that Pioneer and even Modern could have been put into Arena years ago. Such a waste of time an effort, why not focus on giving us a better online experience instead? UB is a joke.

But not physically...

Tomato tomahto

What?? It doesn’t show that at all. It’s the opposite situation entirely.

Universes within universes beyond universes what????

I may not like it, but out of all the bad options you were probably forced into a corner with due to your decisions to make UB in Standard... this is probably the best of the bad options.

This couldn’ta been last-minute decision, why not announce this at the outset? Surely it took time to get the art asset waves done, otherwise are we reverting to the early Alchemy sets of borderline WIP-quality art to cover a full set? Either way, I’m ecstatic and relieved to have MTG sets in MTG.