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I have had many interactions with high ranking fire department folks over building design and left those meetings absolutely baffled at how uninformed they were on actual building safety

this could apply to the entire traffic "engineering" profession as easily as it does to US fire codes

Oh yeah, it’s building codes, zoning, parking requirements, road design, all of it.

All of that stuff is outsourced to volunteers who have no accountability so no wonder it gets shaped by bad faith actors

Same with our gargantuan fire trucks that prevent designing safer streets in cities www.slashgear.com/1890538/why-...

Yeah i have brought this up before too and asked “why do you need a semi truck for a toaster oven fire?” And they got mad at me. Especially when I asked “how do they fight fires in Rome?” When they demanded huge street widths and turning radii

Actual fires are what, 4% of all fire department responses? And how many are traffic crashes?

There is a long history from the 1920s to 1950s of toxic chemical exposure limits determined using 85% vibes. Once they are in place, they are sticky because the standard of proof required to change them is far higher than the standard used to initially set them.

“The standard of proof required to change them is far higher than the standard used to initially set them” is a universal urban planning phenomena of everything. A toddler’s behavior of asking “why” repeatedly could bring the whole thing crumbling down.

This is essentially what the YIMBY movement is doing.