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The wife and I watched Body Double a couple of months ago. Tell Mr. De Palma to calm down.

He has a point. The lighting is poor, generally. And don’t get me started on those stupid lens flares…

Just discovered that Warburton is on here! Followed!

True... But I would argue that the quality of the story to be told is where everything starts to fall apart.

Modern movie lighting & sound is just so god awful

One of the biggest differences today is the light gathering capability of modern digital sensors. They see everything (ok, they go a bit iffy in the highlights sometimes) which means deep shadow recovery isn't the problem it was with celluloid. You can add it in post. But they tend not to these days

I would only say that he muddies up digital tech and lighting. Lighting is an art. It applies to all formats. Digital is a technical parameter. And yes, digital may never look like film, but it can look pretty bloody close, with the right equipment.

I used to watch films and marvel at the location and the cinematography. Now I think everything is just fake, A.I. generated. I’m not impressed. I don’t feel transported to another place or world.

Then you should be making declarations about what films from that era could look like. Have you seen ANY Truffaut films?

In Blowout, when Travolta goes to make a phone call at the gas station, it's raining and the raindrops on the glass are lit by a red neon light that resembles blood, creating a visually chilling effect. De Palma was all over stuff like this. 

One of my favorite movies is "Body Double" a trippy weird movie.

There are innumerable examples, but it's especially jarring with movies that weren't famous for being beautiful. Godfather? Sure. But i just rewatched Ghostbusters, and my god, it's stunning!

He'd do well to watch Wildwood, that movie is fucking GORGEOUS.

Just as there are differences in the way various film stocks capture light, the same is true w. digital cameras & film cameras

Furthermore, film (Kodak, Technicolor) often wasn't entirely accurate. But that often enhanced the movie, making it seem larger than life. Technicolor is not accurate, but it is beautiful.

It has jack and shit to do with film v digital and everything to do with Hollywood's modern esthetics.

Film is organic Digital is clinical It’s all about exposure, shadows and color temperature. My 2 favorites: Apocalypse Now Days of Heaven I would include My Fair Lady, but that would be rather self-serving… I’m the rather distinguished gentleman escorting Eliza.

Cool that has nothing to do with the modern esthetic of gray.

Totally agree about the lighting. Not only in film, tv too

So true

LOVE. This. Of De Palma's films, I think I'm most in awe of that bookkeeper apprehension scene on those steps in 1987's The Untouchables. This is absolute art, and therefore attains timelessness. It should be required viewing for anyone entertaining the idea of becoming a serious filmmaker.

Like to see them make Harvey now. Or not.

He brilliantly and succinctly articulated the diminution of many cultural and artistic forms since the advent of computer generated and now AI generated visual media.

Fastfood cinema.

There's like 14 millennials in hollywood who can bridge the gap but none of them can even get their scripts read because they forgot to be born to a celebrity.

I, with my older eyes, actually have trouble watching some of today's movies. I have to increase the brightness so I can see the overall picture.

Movie making was always about photography, now, not so much. Look at Kubrick, he started as a photographer.

I agree. And the sound mixing is shit. Music too loud and pointlessly put in. It’s annoying.

I think that the nostalgia part is complicated because there was far more money for movie and TV at the time, studios could and took more risks, it's not unreasonable to think that movies were generally better, and not only because we were younger.

What an incredibly valid point,there's no possible way that any movie has beauty, worth or validity unless it was made after 1987. The gold standard of all art is if you can personally relate to it.

does he not know what Technicolor was and that it's no longer a thing?

100%!!!

Yes. The darkness is awful.

Hello

i mean, the idea that nothing is beautifully shot anymore is just ridiculous, and, frankly, you look like a silly old fart if you say it

I agree

Some filmmakers still get it.

Boi. Wait until you learn about bleach bypass color timing Technicolor and cross processing.

He is correct.

I hadn’t thought about it but he is so right. I think sound has also been made so much worse. We all have to have subtitles to understand what is being said.

Agreed! We have become a verrrry lazy country -- in addition to all the despicable events we've allowed over the past decade.

The lightning is horrible (always dark) & it seems like the cameras are always way too closed in on the actors. It always feel like the camera needs to be zoomed out at least 2 feet when they are on an actor. I dont need to see the damn pores in face. Half time, whole face is barely in the frame

He’s right

Yes, thank you. Film is a visual medium, so this is fundamental.

He’s not wrong. The human touch can’t be replaced by digital. I went to the louvre and was blown away by the greats. Amazing art that will never be duplicated by digital

To me now they all look like AI.

There are lots of films worth watching, but few worth seeing.

He is not wrong.

You’re comparing Shakespeare to… checks notes… Gone with the (motherfucking) Wind? Really?

Yeah, laziness is likely a part of it... But I think more about "tight finances". It may just be prohibitively expensive to get all the little details "right" - even when using digital magic. Think of how much detail went into The Lord Of The Rings movies. Good thing they had the budget!

I love watching O Brother, all the lighting and cinematography is so wonderful, the I'll Fly Away montage is so beautiful

TV shows, too. Dull and the lighting sucks.

he’s so right Lighting is an art - filmmakers should bring it back

But i think Deny did something unique with Dune They used a camera lens uniquely crafted for the movie Watched a whole behind the scenes But Deny Villeneuve IS in a class by himself

Nicely done 🥂

Lighting, sound and overuse of CGI.

So true! Movies used to feel special and magical. I thought I was going crazy and then started thrifting older movies. We project them in our family room and it’s like “wow”, this is a movie.

Another reason for this is that for the past 15-20 years the use of green screens (rather than shooting on scene or in real sets) has increased exponentially.

He’s right

Good point.

Yes!